Quote Originally Posted by JAG
To think that has worked in the past and created such a good society!

The problem with your prisons system, like all your public institutions, is that you are so selfish you don't want to give your money away in the form of tax, even when you support the places the tax money would be spent. You cannot have it both ways, as you find out time and again. The richest country in the world - by far - having these forms of problems with their prison systems? My, my, doesn't show Iraq a good example does it? Ah, yes, I forget, you already did that with Abu Gurab and Gitmo.
No, JAG that isn't the problem, the problem I don't mind having higher taxes if I think that we 1.need them, 2.Will be used correctly

I don't think we need higher taxes and here is why: We in Oregon have a multi-billion dollar budget, and for prisons and jail we spend about 8 million dollars on them. This is a much smaller number than is needed to make ends meet in prisons. I believe although I have no information at hand to prove it Oregon runs on about 2.1 billion dollars a year. So where is all the money going? I'll tell you, it is going to all the government programs, which are getting abused by illegal aliens and people who are to damn lazy to get a job of there own.

And I say this because I know, I've seen it for myself, if you lived here, you would see it plastered all over the news about meth users and how they live in large is off of the american tax payers, because they can get free housing, free food, and free utilities all paid for while they are sitting at home smoking pot and using meth.

So you see it really has nothing to do with "we don't wanna pay taxes" even though we enjoy a very lax tax system, because we keep voting down sales taxes. Which in my opinion are a bad thing for Oregon to have right now. And I also think that was a really bad remark concerning Iraq JAG, usualy your posts are a little deeper than that.