MTW or VI - Which Is Really The Best Medieval Multiplayer Game?

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Is the 7 max on cav really necessary or even useful? Some of the factions like Russian and Egyptian depend on cav because their melee infantry is relatively weak

Otherwise you will have many peep using all cav. Besides by allowing v2 spears these armies inf isnt so weak any more. Ive been using Egypt with 4 v2 saracens. You can also take V1 abys and upgrade them.

[Tomisama]

To my thinking having valor 2 spears really eliminates the need for a cavalry max limit.

Hey, you bring em, we’ll hoist em

And I believe all of the other suggestions made here and on line, are either directly or indirectly self fulfilling regulatories (made up word).

Also, considering v0 option, I see the 8k providing better control over excessive upgrades.

The Viking era? It really has never made the interest chart for CWC contests, and I don’t think it should be included here either.


At least to me, that leaves us with:

v1 max - v2 max spear* - no art

7k – 8k – 9k

*All units with an anti cavalry rating (will make a list).

Straight forward, simple, easily managed, and most important “sellable”!


Are we there yet?

[Tomisama]

List of units with special anti cavalry ratings.

1. Almughavars
2. ArmouredSpearmen
3. Billmen
4. ChivalricFootKnights
5. ChivalricSergeants
6. FeudalSergeants
7. GothicSergeants
8. Halbardiers
9. ItalianLightInfantry
10. JanissaryHeavyInfantry
11. MuwahidFoot
12. NegroSpearmen
13. OrderFootSoldiers
14. Pikemen
15. RoundShieldSpearmen
16. RusSpearmen
17. SaracenInfantry
18. Spearmen
19. SwissArmouredPikemen
20. SwissHalbardiers
21. SwissPikemen

Please note: The Byzantine have none of the above in any era.

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[zaphod]

or you could classify spears according to whether they have a rank bonus, or possibly unit size - 99 and above - which would include byz inf.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Thats the last thing we want is V2 byz inf on the field.

[Puzz3D]

Seems like the Byz faction will loose a bit of power, but they may still be pretty good. The varangian guard unit is good at v0, and they have pretty good cav such as Byz lancers. Byz inf will have low morale which will be a weakness, but you can get their combat power up with weapon or armor upgrades since they aren't too expensive.

Low morale units can fight for a very long time because with most units limited to v1 max you don't get large mismatches in combat power. However, you do have to be more careful about protecting flanks, otherwise you will see quick routing. Also, 2 or more players ganging up on one are going to benefit more from the outnumbered morale penalty than they do in a higher florin game such as 10k and above. Attrition is going to be somewhat less important and position somewhat more important.

[CBR]

The Byz are really a cav faction anyway. Its only because of the upgrades that some people are used to buying loads of infantry for that faction.


CBR