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    I saw a conservative club in the backroom. I am politically left, so I am going to start a Left Wing Club. Politically, I favor socialism with a democratic platform.

    All right!

    If you think that you are a liberal, socialist, communist, pro-choice, pro-same sex marriage, or simply leftist in political or economic views, please say "I want to be a member" and you are in!

    I will keep a tally of the members every two days and post their names on the first thread!

    The club welcomes all types of lefties (You do not have to support all left wing issues, as long as you have pro-left sympathies, you are more than welcome.)

    Current Members:

    poirot
    IliaDN
    KafirChobee
    Gertgregoor



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    Very Senior Member Gawain of Orkeny's Avatar
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    Not again
    This is the forth version of this club. I started a conservative , leiberal and moderate club a longtime ago. The only club that has never changed is the conservative one . Though we did have to rebuild it after we changed sites. The liberal and moderate clubs come and go but us conservatives are rock solid. We know what we believe in.
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    I don't really think a club is needed, but whatever. So whats on the agenda?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
    The liberal and moderate clubs come and go but us conservatives are rock solid. We know what we believe in.
    See, the little winking thing on the right changes this whole statement from a self-congratulating bit of smuggery (with a nice smear against everyone who isn't an avowed conservative) into a witty piece of "tweaking."

    That was the intent, right? You should see how G is behaving in the Moderate Club. God forbid he allow anyone to have the last word. In any shape or form.

    Unasked-for advice: If you want to maintain your club, and not begin it with four pages of all-about-Gawain, just stop responding to his slanders.

    Oh, and I guess I should follow that with a wink smiley. Because that makes a sweeping slander witty.

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    Does this club support the original form of marxism or just the more tested versions no used in dictatorships ??

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    Again..

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    Quote Originally Posted by PanzerJager
    Again..
    Be positive. It might give us some really cheap consumer products with junk quality that we can import on borrowed money......

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    Well, I'm a bit of a leftie, but I wouldn't have the first clue what these clubs are for... Do we discuss how our political preferences are superior, or do we just badmouth the old white men in the other club?

    Thanks for the assistance.

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    The reason the various 'left wing' clubs have not survived is because I think most of the regular lefties on the board - including myself - find the idea of a separate club for a separate political ideology, on a public board meant to be for all, fairly laughable. Plus I personally think it flies in the face of what you would expect from lefties, leave the old mens, private entry clubs to those who traditionally are great at it - the elitist Conservatives. They love membership clubs because they love to divide people into boxes and live in such a society, we should be about the complete opposite.

    Anyway, if there is a good discussion put forward, I will post a few things I guess - I post enough in the Conservative club anyway, always is amusing.

    And Lem - we are all used to Gawain by now, normally you learn to just ignore him and a few of his fellow Conservatives.
    GARCIN: I "dreamt," you say. It was no dream. When I chose the hardest path, I made my choice deliberately. A man is what he wills himself to be.
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    GARCIN: I died too soon. I wasn't allowed time to - to do my deeds.
    INEZ: One always dies too soon - or too late. And yet one's whole life is complete at that moment, with a line drawn neatly under it, ready for the summing up. You are - your life, and nothing else.

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    And Lem - we are all used to Gawain by now, normally you learn to just ignore him and a few of his fellow Conservatives.
    OMG the nerve of some people. Jag How many times did I post in the Liberal club or proggressive circle. Less than ten. Meanwhile look at your own shamless gate crashing at our club. Youve posted there more than I have.
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    Gawain - I have no problem with you posting here, notice the rest of my post on what I think about clubs here.

    But sometiems you do make some statements and lead threads to places you have to ignore.
    GARCIN: I "dreamt," you say. It was no dream. When I chose the hardest path, I made my choice deliberately. A man is what he wills himself to be.
    INEZ: Prove it. Prove it was no dream. It's what one does, and nothing else, that shows the stuff one's made of.
    GARCIN: I died too soon. I wasn't allowed time to - to do my deeds.
    INEZ: One always dies too soon - or too late. And yet one's whole life is complete at that moment, with a line drawn neatly under it, ready for the summing up. You are - your life, and nothing else.

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    Btw, this thread should get organized like our moderate club..

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    But sometiems you do make some statements and lead threads to places you have to ignore.
    Your getting all self rightous again and making inflamatory statements to boot.

    First you insult me

    And Lem - we are all used to Gawain by now, normally you learn to just ignore him
    And then more un named people to boot

    and a few of his fellow Conservatives.
    I could say I learned to ignore you a longtime ago but that wouldnt be true or a proper statement to make. Also you should stop speaking for others.
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    Once in this thread I spoke for others and that was because the last time a lefty club came around, if I reemmber correctly, soem of their responses were silimar to what I stated.

    You seem to have a problem with what I said about you - I didn't know I meant so much to you.
    GARCIN: I "dreamt," you say. It was no dream. When I chose the hardest path, I made my choice deliberately. A man is what he wills himself to be.
    INEZ: Prove it. Prove it was no dream. It's what one does, and nothing else, that shows the stuff one's made of.
    GARCIN: I died too soon. I wasn't allowed time to - to do my deeds.
    INEZ: One always dies too soon - or too late. And yet one's whole life is complete at that moment, with a line drawn neatly under it, ready for the summing up. You are - your life, and nothing else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King of Atlantis


    Btw, this thread should get organized like our moderate club..
    Agreed. Also we should have someone forming a Conservative club on similar membership lines.
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    Have you guys not noticed the Conservative club already in existence?
    GARCIN: I "dreamt," you say. It was no dream. When I chose the hardest path, I made my choice deliberately. A man is what he wills himself to be.
    INEZ: Prove it. Prove it was no dream. It's what one does, and nothing else, that shows the stuff one's made of.
    GARCIN: I died too soon. I wasn't allowed time to - to do my deeds.
    INEZ: One always dies too soon - or too late. And yet one's whole life is complete at that moment, with a line drawn neatly under it, ready for the summing up. You are - your life, and nothing else.

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    Yes, But the First Post should contain a list of declared members.
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    Once in this thread I spoke for others and that was because the last time a lefty club came around, if I reemmber correctly, soem of their responses were silimar to what I stated.
    I never stuck my nose in there other than to congratulate you guys. There was no talk of ignore me there.I had something you seem to lack. Respect for the wishes of others. Though I must admit we were constantly telling eachother to ignore your taunts in our club.

    You seem to have a problem with what I said about you
    I had no problem with it but you must admit it was uncalled for and could be seen as trolling.

    I didn't know I meant so much to you.
    Well now you do. I really do respect you on most issues. You put much thought behind your posts though I think you are sometimes too smart for your own good.
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    Fair enough, I apologise Gawain, it could have been seen as trolling.

    However I think the posts were fairly fair. :p
    GARCIN: I "dreamt," you say. It was no dream. When I chose the hardest path, I made my choice deliberately. A man is what he wills himself to be.
    INEZ: Prove it. Prove it was no dream. It's what one does, and nothing else, that shows the stuff one's made of.
    GARCIN: I died too soon. I wasn't allowed time to - to do my deeds.
    INEZ: One always dies too soon - or too late. And yet one's whole life is complete at that moment, with a line drawn neatly under it, ready for the summing up. You are - your life, and nothing else.

    Jean Paul Sartre - No Exit 1944

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwitt
    Yes, But the First Post should contain a list of declared members.
    Who cares, let them run their imaginary club how they like. The fact remains it isn't a club when anyone can post there, just like this and any other thread cannot be considered a club of any sort, except an .org/backroom club.
    GARCIN: I "dreamt," you say. It was no dream. When I chose the hardest path, I made my choice deliberately. A man is what he wills himself to be.
    INEZ: Prove it. Prove it was no dream. It's what one does, and nothing else, that shows the stuff one's made of.
    GARCIN: I died too soon. I wasn't allowed time to - to do my deeds.
    INEZ: One always dies too soon - or too late. And yet one's whole life is complete at that moment, with a line drawn neatly under it, ready for the summing up. You are - your life, and nothing else.

    Jean Paul Sartre - No Exit 1944

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    Agreed JAG. Who am I to tell someone to run their club, so suggestion retracted. And of course postings should not be restricted as this would not allow new members and ideas. The "Moderates" does have some guidelines i.e. Declaration of "I am a Moderate"
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    Gawain runs a tight shift in the Conservative Club. Its very organized, we have a president, sergeant at arms, and some other ranks.

    The conservative club has remained in existence because people like Gawain, Redleg, X(however you spell the rest of it), and some others enjoy hashing out conservative policy.

    Left wing issues seem to be more emotional most of the time(barring abortion), but right wing issues are based on logical determinations, therefore theres a lot that must be discussed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PanzerJager
    Left wing issues seem to be more emotional most of the time
    Oh dear...


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    All right!

    If you think that you are a liberal, socialist, communist, pro-abortionist, pro-same sex marriage, or simply leftist in political or economic views, please say "I want to be a member" and you are in!

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    If anyone's read my posts here in the backroom, you all probably think I am a conservative...But I must say JAG has a good point (or three).

    But I am pro-choice and pro-same sex marriages (I have too many gay friends to think to deny them the same rights I've got)...

    Maybe I'm just confused...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PanzerJager
    Left wing issues seem to be more emotional most of the time(barring abortion), but right wing issues are based on logical determinations, therefore theres a lot that must be discussed.
    I guess emotions are leftist features, including: compassion, charity, altruism, egalitarianism, sensitivity to injustice, and love.


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    Good on you poirot. However, as I formed the "moderates" Club, I will not join this one, also I can not join the Conservative's either.

    Good Luck with your club.
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    Well, I like some ideas in communism theiries, so you can sign me in.

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    Tachikaze, good to see you still posting around these parts.

    Yes, you are right, we put pragmatism above idealism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tachikaze
    I guess emotions are leftist features, including: compassion, charity, altruism, egalitarianism, sensitivity to injustice, and love.
    Well said that very honourable man trying to hide in the corner - and unfortuantely for the whole tavern, doing a good job of it.

    The left also speaks with more emotion because the causes which attract and appeal to us are far more important than profit margins.
    GARCIN: I "dreamt," you say. It was no dream. When I chose the hardest path, I made my choice deliberately. A man is what he wills himself to be.
    INEZ: Prove it. Prove it was no dream. It's what one does, and nothing else, that shows the stuff one's made of.
    GARCIN: I died too soon. I wasn't allowed time to - to do my deeds.
    INEZ: One always dies too soon - or too late. And yet one's whole life is complete at that moment, with a line drawn neatly under it, ready for the summing up. You are - your life, and nothing else.

    Jean Paul Sartre - No Exit 1944

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