I am a decent person i have done nothing wrong. I will NOT let them take my property. When they come to take them they can have the bullets first. Alot of americans feel this way.
I am a decent person i have done nothing wrong. I will NOT let them take my property. When they come to take them they can have the bullets first. Alot of americans feel this way.
Formerly ceasar010
well a psyco or not, psychos aren't stupid, I bet they'll ambush you or attack you from behind BEFORE you'll be able to shoot them. They don't come right to you and say: hello I am going to shoot within 1 minut starting from...now.Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
No they do so by surprise. And then they pick your gun to.
So they will start of with a knife and because of you, woohoo, they have a knife.
Quite frankly and IMHO, people with that mindset lack the maturity to own a gunOriginally Posted by ceasar010
If you are afraid of guns thats not our problem don't by one.
Why cleange because they are willing to defend their constitutional rights. They wont let the government over step their boundaries. Many people think like me here
http://thefiringline.com/
Last edited by scooter_the_shooter; 07-24-2005 at 17:55.
Formerly ceasar010
Yes we wouldn't doubt that but alot of other americans don't feel that way.( no, not only the bandits)Originally Posted by ceasar010
you can always buy an alarm call the police or hire security guys (with no guns, or at least no deadly guns)
I wouldn't mind this would you. I wouldn't even mind nondeadly(is this a word???) guns to scare of intruders.Here you can own a gun and go target shooting (there is a shooting club in my neighbourhood) but you can't take your gun to your house. And you can go hunting with hail guns (altough there isn't much to shoot).
And there's also the suicide problem, the guy wich has the gun can be psycho too and ofcourse you can always shoot somebody out of mistake (thinking he's a thief while he wasn't, or that "terrorsist" from london. if trained policemen can make such a fault why wouldn't you?)
anyway, am I in?
srry for bad English
We speak the same language but this I connot understandI wouldn't mind this would you.![]()
Sorry, but adolescents who say that they would rather kill somebody than having taken their favourite toy away are not really the type of folks I would like to give a deadly weapon to.Originally Posted by ceasar010
If they ban them that takes away our constitutional right. And once they take one that open the doors to take others. Look act what the patriot act did.
Guns are only as dangerous as the person you give them too.
At least browse the site some. Keep an open mind to it. When the lefties post some hippy site i at least look at it a little.
Last edited by scooter_the_shooter; 07-24-2005 at 18:09.
Formerly ceasar010
If you feel that your constitutional rights are infringed, people in most democratic countries tend to take another approaches than a fight to the death.Originally Posted by ceasar010
It is exactly this "from-my-dead-hands" mindset that makes a lot of people think that gun ownership might better be a bit more regulated.
I think that's what I was saying.Originally Posted by ceasar010
If they would ban them, can´t they change the constiution. Or isn't that posible in the US?Originally Posted by ceasar010
But if they did that then wouldn't take away your constitutional right because it isn't in the constition anymore so you wouldnt have to fight the government
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If they changed the constitution to take it away it is still taking it away. Most americans want the constitution to stay the same. Thats why we dont like activist judges.
And if they can change the second. then they can change the first which is even more important.
If they ban them there won't be a revouloution or anything. Most people will just not turn them and keep them.
Last edited by scooter_the_shooter; 07-24-2005 at 18:21.
Formerly ceasar010
well i am not even a lefty so i shouldnt even be posting here so this is my last one.
good luck with the club![]()
Formerly ceasar010
hehehehehe not so fast you Ceasar.............
We do not sow.
You know William Morris?Originally Posted by IliaDN
Right. But I talk about pure cap and pure com. My example was pure capitalsim and I think we agree it was bad. The US overcame it and that shows that it doesn't have pure cap.Originally Posted by PanzerJager
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What you had in the USSR was not pure com. You know to me it wasn't com at all.
No it isn't. As soon as one is strong enough competition is gone.Originally Posted by King of Atlantis
Originally Posted by ceasar010
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Anotherone who thinks that a gun makes a man!
Originally Posted by Franconicus
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When did I say that? Just because I don’t want the government to come onto My property and take MY things I think "gun makes a man" how the hell did you come up with that![]()
I don’t run around in camo pretending to be Rambo at the shooting range![]()
You lefties are crazy you claim you want small government but then you want more taxes and a number of things banned..... Oh yeah that a real free society ~:.
Quit watching michael moore and learn some real facts.
And in a civilized society people should be trust worthy enough to own a firearm.
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Guns do NOT kill people.
Laws need to be passed that go after those who try to do the killing.
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This is my last post here for real this time![]()
Last edited by scooter_the_shooter; 07-25-2005 at 19:48.
Formerly ceasar010
No, guns don't make a man. Standing up for what you think is right is what makes you a man. I have no more tolerance for a threat than ceasar010 does. If ceasar010 thinks that he has a right to weapons, then he will defend that right. As soon as he is old enough.
You have no right to take that away.
Azi
Mark Twain 1881"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse."
"Grabs Azi Tohak and ceasar010 by their ears and drags them back to the Conservative Club" Sorry for the interuption here. Lets see how long this converstation lasts without some rednecks coming in here and messin up the place.![]()
Last edited by Gawain of Orkeny; 07-26-2005 at 00:17.
Fighting for Truth , Justice and the American way
Guns don't only make a man, they make up for small penis sizes as well!![]()
GARCIN: I "dreamt," you say. It was no dream. When I chose the hardest path, I made my choice deliberately. A man is what he wills himself to be.
INEZ: Prove it. Prove it was no dream. It's what one does, and nothing else, that shows the stuff one's made of.
GARCIN: I died too soon. I wasn't allowed time to - to do my deeds.
INEZ: One always dies too soon - or too late. And yet one's whole life is complete at that moment, with a line drawn neatly under it, ready for the summing up. You are - your life, and nothing else.
Jean Paul Sartre - No Exit 1944
Jag this says alot about you anti gun people... read ALL of it![]()
http://www.jpfo.org/ragingagainstselfdefense.htm
dont even respond to this until you read it.
Formerly ceasar010
I have no interest in reading all that boring material, I am sure it will shorten my life at least 5 years if I even attempt it.![]()
GARCIN: I "dreamt," you say. It was no dream. When I chose the hardest path, I made my choice deliberately. A man is what he wills himself to be.
INEZ: Prove it. Prove it was no dream. It's what one does, and nothing else, that shows the stuff one's made of.
GARCIN: I died too soon. I wasn't allowed time to - to do my deeds.
INEZ: One always dies too soon - or too late. And yet one's whole life is complete at that moment, with a line drawn neatly under it, ready for the summing up. You are - your life, and nothing else.
Jean Paul Sartre - No Exit 1944
Jag if you read that i will read some of that commie garbage of equal size.Come on post some of that propoganda.
Formerly ceasar010
http://www.marxists.org/reference/ar...ist/sartre.htm
Read that, it isn't anything to do with the left, it is a philosophical book, but I reckon it would help your outlook a lot.
Read that, then i'll consider it, eh?
Oh and nice to see you at this club again, for your 5th 'last post'.![]()
GARCIN: I "dreamt," you say. It was no dream. When I chose the hardest path, I made my choice deliberately. A man is what he wills himself to be.
INEZ: Prove it. Prove it was no dream. It's what one does, and nothing else, that shows the stuff one's made of.
GARCIN: I died too soon. I wasn't allowed time to - to do my deeds.
INEZ: One always dies too soon - or too late. And yet one's whole life is complete at that moment, with a line drawn neatly under it, ready for the summing up. You are - your life, and nothing else.
Jean Paul Sartre - No Exit 1944
I cant keep having "last post" here so if you want to continue this do it through pms.
And when you say you will "consider" reading what i posted that means you better read it![]()
PS I am about 1/3 to 1/2 through that thing and so far the only part I like is this.
Certainly, many people think that in what they are doing they commit no one but themselves to anything: and if you ask them, “What would happen if everyone did so?” they shrug their shoulders and reply, “Everyone does not do so.” But in truth, one ought always to ask oneself what would happen if everyone did as one is doing; nor can one escape from that disturbing thought except by a kind of self-deception. The man who lies in self-excuse, by saying “Everyone will not do it” must be ill at ease in his conscience, for the act of lying implies the universal value which it denies.
But the whole comparing god to a paper knife I didn't like.
Last edited by scooter_the_shooter; 07-26-2005 at 03:27.
Formerly ceasar010
He doesn't really compare God to a paperknife, he uses both in an example about what he means by what he previously said. It is a good example as well.
GARCIN: I "dreamt," you say. It was no dream. When I chose the hardest path, I made my choice deliberately. A man is what he wills himself to be.
INEZ: Prove it. Prove it was no dream. It's what one does, and nothing else, that shows the stuff one's made of.
GARCIN: I died too soon. I wasn't allowed time to - to do my deeds.
INEZ: One always dies too soon - or too late. And yet one's whole life is complete at that moment, with a line drawn neatly under it, ready for the summing up. You are - your life, and nothing else.
Jean Paul Sartre - No Exit 1944
What I was trying to say is that it takes more than a gun to kill a man. So if someones want to rob you and he has a knife and you have a gun you may end dead. And you may wish you hadn't a gun!Originally Posted by ceasar010
It is a pitty that you do not want to post here anymore. That is what the LWC is about. Come in, find a singel confused Neo Con, shoot your arguments at him, see him crap his gun and enjoy your day![]()
no don't go Ceasar010!!!! don't!!
just a question but are all neocons pro-gun?
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