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    Naughty Little Hippy Senior Member Tachikaze's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by PanzerJager
    Left wing issues seem to be more emotional most of the time(barring abortion), but right wing issues are based on logical determinations, therefore theres a lot that must be discussed.
    I guess emotions are leftist features, including: compassion, charity, altruism, egalitarianism, sensitivity to injustice, and love.


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    Well, I like some ideas in communism theiries, so you can sign me in.

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    Tachikaze, good to see you still posting around these parts.

    Yes, you are right, we put pragmatism above idealism.

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    Yes, But the First Post should contain a list of declared members.
    How can ther first post contain a list of declared members when you dont have any yet? By the way the Conservative club was the only onw with a published list of members and yes it was on the first page and done from the start. It also has a premise which I still havent seen fron your organisation. You are no where near as organised as we are. Thats why you are hearing this.

    It would be cool, if someone will explain the main idea\purpose of this club ...
    Its pretty simple they saw the conservative club and thought hey lets start our own without even knowing why the conservative club exists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PanzerJager
    Tachikaze, good to see you still posting around these parts.

    Yes, you are right, we put pragmatism above idealism.
    I didn't realize I was missed. Makes me feel, *sniff* like part of a family.

    Actually, I haven't been absent, just posting more nonpolicial stuff (which takes less thinking time) in the Frontroom.

    The pragmatism vs. idealism issue is an interesting one. Actually, I feel that both sides have their areas of pragmatism and idealism.

    To me, it's an odd paradox, however. There is a greater ratio of Christians among the Right (let me know if I'm wrong), yet, the Left seems to be guided more by a kind of spirituality, often alluded to as "idealism" by the right. There is a kind of faith, even among those who are self-proclaimed atheists, that the Right doesn't seem to share.

    These feelings are just vague notions I get when I read posts in this forum. I can't even specify what the "faith" is in. I just see it as a common thread through the messages. I would suggest that they may be sensitive to what the Chinese call tao, or the flow of the universe/nature. They know in their hearts what's right, and it guides them in their decisions. They feel imbalance, a shift too far in one direction that leads to instability.

    This is not to say they aren't pragmatic or logical. In fact, I would say the Left is teeming with analytical types who philosophize about their views. When leftists argue against the evils of excessive capitalism, they most often explain their views in terms of the cause-and-effect of alienating large proportions of society by creating a huge imbalance of haves and have-nots. By creating a world of those who control wealth and those who serve them for subsistence.

    That sounds like a pragmatic concern to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tachikaze
    I guess emotions are leftist features, including: compassion, charity, altruism, egalitarianism, sensitivity to injustice, and love.
    Well said that very honourable man trying to hide in the corner - and unfortuantely for the whole tavern, doing a good job of it.

    The left also speaks with more emotion because the causes which attract and appeal to us are far more important than profit margins.
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    INEZ: Prove it. Prove it was no dream. It's what one does, and nothing else, that shows the stuff one's made of.
    GARCIN: I died too soon. I wasn't allowed time to - to do my deeds.
    INEZ: One always dies too soon - or too late. And yet one's whole life is complete at that moment, with a line drawn neatly under it, ready for the summing up. You are - your life, and nothing else.

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