Left Wing Club

**IliaDN** · 07-20-2005, 17:26

The funniest thing is that half of the official members participated in it ( see the members list on the first page ).

**poirot** · 07-21-2005, 03:21

LOL! You can be a member of the Left Wing Club if you are in general politically left. In other words, you do not have to support every left wing issue. And all are welcome to post!

**IliaDN** · 07-21-2005, 11:45

Just one question:
Do you consider communism to be possible>

**Franconicus** · 07-21-2005, 16:08

What do you mean. Everybody here has his own definition about communism. I like William Morris (News from Nowhere) most!

**IliaDN** · 07-21-2005, 17:36

Originally Posted by Franconicus

What do you mean. Everybody here has his own definition about communism. I like William Morris (News from Nowhere) most!

Utopic.

**IliaDN** · 07-21-2005, 17:42

Quote: "Socialism in all its form is a dangerous ideology that should be countered at all times.

It not only endangers the wealth and economy of nations, but the cultural makeup as well.

Socialism breeds dependency, irresponsibility, and laziness and threatens those that are successful with taxes and laws aimed at social engineering.

As Europe becomes more socialist you will see unemployment rise, economies stagnate, and an ever increasingly entrenched class system."
No such things were normal in the USSr, or in the nowadays China.

**PanzerJaeger** · 07-21-2005, 17:54

No such things were normal in the USSr, or in the nowadays China.

The things I stated were present in communist Russia.

Russia's economy was driven into the ground and its culture was completely changed. There was a great degree of incompetence and lazyness on the part of many Russians, as there was very little incentive to do any work - unless they had the misfortune of having their life threatened.

I dont know if China could be regarded as a socialist country - it was a stretch to compare the USSR, but it did have many socialist policies.

In any event, Chinas ancient culture was by and large destroyed and the cultural revolution was a disaster. And only as China has begun to embrace capitolist ideas has its economy started to grow.

**Franconicus** · 07-22-2005, 08:22

What would you say about this statement:
"Capitalism in all its form is a dangerous ideology that should be countered at all times.

It not only endangers the wealth and economy of nations, but the cultural makeup as well.

Capitalism breeds dependency, irresponsibility, and laziness and threatens the poor with taxes and laws aimed at social engineering.

As Europe becomes more capitalistic you will see unemployment rise, economies stagnate, and an ever increasingly entrenched class system."