Left Wing Club

[scooter_the_shooter]

I am a decent person i have done nothing wrong. I will NOT let them take my property. When they come to take them they can have the bullets first. Alot of americans feel this way.

[Moros]

Maybe the guys a physco and just wants to kill you. Then what? You cant reason with everyone. Sometimes it comes down to you or them. Ill take me and my gun everytime thank you. One day liberals will return to living in the real world.

well a psyco or not, psychos aren't stupid, I bet they'll ambush you or attack you from behind BEFORE you'll be able to shoot them. They don't come right to you and say: hello I am going to shoot within 1 minut starting from...now.
No they do so by surprise. And then they pick your gun to.
So they will start of with a knife and because of you, woohoo, they have a knife.

[Ser Clegane]

When they come to take them they can have the bullets first. Alot of americans feel this way.

Quite frankly and IMHO, people with that mindset lack the maturity to own a gun

[scooter_the_shooter]

If you are afraid of guns thats not our problem don't by one.

Why cleange because they are willing to defend their constitutional rights. They wont let the government over step their boundaries. Many people think like me here


http://thefiringline.com/

[Moros]

I am a decent person i have done nothing wrong. I will NOT let them take my property. When they come to take them they can have the bullets first. Alot of americans feel this way.

Yes we wouldn't doubt that but alot of other americans don't feel that way.( no, not only the bandits)

you can always buy an alarm call the police or hire security guys (with no guns, or at least no deadly guns)

Here you can own a gun and go target shooting (there is a shooting club in my neighbourhood) but you can't take your gun to your house. And you can go hunting with hail guns (altough there isn't much to shoot).

I wouldn't mind this would you. I wouldn't even mind nondeadly(is this a word???) guns to scare of intruders.

And there's also the suicide problem, the guy wich has the gun can be psycho too and ofcourse you can always shoot somebody out of mistake (thinking he's a thief while he wasn't, or that "terrorsist" from london. if trained policemen can make such a fault why wouldn't you?)

anyway, am I in?

srry for bad English

[ThijsP]

I wouldn't mind this would you.

We speak the same language but this I connot understand

[Ser Clegane]

Why cleange because they are willing to defend their constitutional rights. They wont let the government over step their boundaries. Many people think like me here


http://thefiringline.com/

Sorry, but adolescents who say that they would rather kill somebody than having taken their favourite toy away are not really the type of folks I would like to give a deadly weapon to.

[scooter_the_shooter]

If they ban them that takes away our constitutional right. And once they take one that open the doors to take others. Look act what the patriot act did.


Guns are only as dangerous as the person you give them too.


At least browse the site some. Keep an open mind to it. When the lefties post some hippy site i at least look at it a little.

[Ser Clegane]

If they ban them that takes away our constitutional right.

If you feel that your constitutional rights are infringed, people in most democratic countries tend to take another approaches than a fight to the death.

It is exactly this "from-my-dead-hands" mindset that makes a lot of people think that gun ownership might better be a bit more regulated.

Guns are only as dangerous as the person you give them too.

I think that's what I was saying.

[ThijsP]

If they ban them that takes away our constitutional right. And once they take one that open the doors to take others. Look act what the patriot act did.

If they would ban them, can´t they change the constiution. Or isn't that posible in the US? But if they did that then wouldn't take away your constitutional right because it isn't in the constition anymore so you wouldnt have to fight the government

[scooter_the_shooter]

If they changed the constitution to take it away it is still taking it away. Most americans want the constitution to stay the same. Thats why we dont like activist judges.


And if they can change the second. then they can change the first which is even more important.


If they ban them there won't be a revouloution or anything. Most people will just not turn them and keep them.

[scooter_the_shooter]

well i am not even a lefty so i shouldnt even be posting here so this is my last one.

good luck with the club

[The Stranger]

hehehehehe not so fast you Ceasar.............

[Franconicus]

Utopic.

You know William Morris?

[Franconicus]

Yes, unfortunately those company towns were a big problem in the height of the coal mining industry.

However, that is not capitolism, but a very unique subversion of it. As America has shown, such things are not tolerated for long in a responsible capitolist country.

Any economic structure can be taken advantage of. What is telling is that America has been able to overcome the shortfalls of capitolism and continue to be successful, whereas Russia could not make socialism work.

Right. But I talk about pure cap and pure com. My example was pure capitalsim and I think we agree it was bad. The US overcame it and that shows that it doesn't have pure cap.
What you had in the USSR was not pure com. You know to me it wasn't com at all.

[Franconicus]

Doesnt sound like capitalism at all. Capitalism is about competition. It doesn't sound like in this town there was any competition as everything was owend by the company.

No it isn't. As soon as one is strong enough competition is gone.

[Franconicus]

I am a decent person i have done nothing wrong. I will NOT let them take my property. When they come to take them they can have the bullets first. Alot of americans feel this way.

Anotherone who thinks that a gun makes a man!

[IliaDN]

Anotherone who thinks that a gun makes a man!

[scooter_the_shooter]

When did I say that? Just because I don’t want the government to come onto My property and take MY things I think "gun makes a man" how the hell did you come up with that

I don’t run around in camo pretending to be Rambo at the shooting range


You lefties are crazy you claim you want small government but then you want more taxes and a number of things banned..... Oh yeah that a real free society ~:.

Quit watching michael moore and learn some real facts.

And in a civilized society people should be trust worthy enough to own a firearm.
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Guns do NOT kill people.


Laws need to be passed that go after those who try to do the killing.

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This is my last post here for real this time

[Azi Tohak]

No, guns don't make a man. Standing up for what you think is right is what makes you a man. I have no more tolerance for a threat than ceasar010 does. If ceasar010 thinks that he has a right to weapons, then he will defend that right. As soon as he is old enough.

You have no right to take that away.

Azi

[Gawain of Orkeny]

"Grabs Azi Tohak and ceasar010 by their ears and drags them back to the Conservative Club" Sorry for the interuption here. Lets see how long this converstation lasts without some rednecks coming in here and messin up the place.

[JAG]

Guns don't only make a man, they make up for small penis sizes as well!

[scooter_the_shooter]

Jag this says alot about you anti gun people... read ALL of it

http://www.jpfo.org/ragingagainstselfdefense.htm


dont even respond to this until you read it.

[JAG]

I have no interest in reading all that boring material, I am sure it will shorten my life at least 5 years if I even attempt it.

[scooter_the_shooter]

Jag if you read that i will read some of that commie garbage of equal size. Come on post some of that propoganda.

[JAG]

http://www.marxists.org/reference/ar...ist/sartre.htm

Read that, it isn't anything to do with the left, it is a philosophical book, but I reckon it would help your outlook a lot.

Read that, then i'll consider it, eh?

Oh and nice to see you at this club again, for your 5th 'last post'.

[scooter_the_shooter]

I cant keep having "last post" here so if you want to continue this do it through pms.

And when you say you will "consider" reading what i posted that means you better read it


PS I am about 1/3 to 1/2 through that thing and so far the only part I like is this.

Certainly, many people think that in what they are doing they commit no one but themselves to anything: and if you ask them, “What would happen if everyone did so?” they shrug their shoulders and reply, “Everyone does not do so.” But in truth, one ought always to ask oneself what would happen if everyone did as one is doing; nor can one escape from that disturbing thought except by a kind of self-deception. The man who lies in self-excuse, by saying “Everyone will not do it” must be ill at ease in his conscience, for the act of lying implies the universal value which it denies.

But the whole comparing god to a paper knife I didn't like.

[JAG]

He doesn't really compare God to a paperknife, he uses both in an example about what he means by what he previously said. It is a good example as well.

[Franconicus]

When did I say that? Just because I don’t want the government to come onto My property and take MY things I think "gun makes a man" how the hell did you come up with that

I don’t run around in camo pretending to be Rambo at the shooting range


You lefties are crazy you claim you want small government but then you want more taxes and a number of things banned..... Oh yeah that a real free society ~:.

Quit watching michael moore and learn some real facts.

And in a civilized society people should be trust worthy enough to own a firearm.
................
Guns do NOT kill people.


Laws need to be passed that go after those who try to do the killing.

............

This is my last post here for real this time

What I was trying to say is that it takes more than a gun to kill a man. So if someones want to rob you and he has a knife and you have a gun you may end dead. And you may wish you hadn't a gun!

It is a pitty that you do not want to post here anymore. That is what the LWC is about. Come in, find a singel confused Neo Con, shoot your arguments at him, see him crap his gun and enjoy your day

[Moros]

no don't go Ceasar010!!!! don't!!

just a question but are all neocons pro-gun?