The Moderate's Club

[Gawain of Orkeny]

I await that request.

And wait you shall

You see I at least am honest about where I stand. We all think we look at bothsides and are moderate in our views except maybe Navaros and Jag. But I believe even they think theve looked at bothsides and thiers is the only logical conclusion. Moderate means either you blow with the wind or your a liberal. Now I would consider the DON to bea very moderate person but with a definite conservtive vantage point. I doubt he will want to join your club though as us conservatives are damn proud to be called Conservatives.

[Papewaio]

I would like to see the Jag and Navaros bookclub or the Jag and Navaros Counterstrike Team.

They are the Orgs odd couple...

[Lemur]

Moderate means either you blow with the wind or your a liberal.

Spoken like a true extremist.

Didn't take long for this to become a thread about Gawain, now did it?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I'm not sure I agree with your definition of moderate.

[kiwitt]

I'm not sure I agree with your definition of moderate.

Actually, if you consider yourself as a "moderate" and you know if you are by your own definition or not, you can ask for admittance to the list. i.e. you are identifying yourself to others that you are "moderate".

NOTE: I have modified my definition using "wikipedia"

[Red Harvest]

Spoken like a true extremist.

Didn't take long for this to become a thread about Gawain, now did it?

Yep, Gawain is an extremist. Anyone to the left of him is a liberal in his book. Finding someone to the right of him is a challenge.

[bmolsson]

Please define moderate.... I am a bit lost on that one....

[Lemur]

Please define moderate.... I am a bit lost on that one....

If the extremists of all parties (left, right, pro-gun, anti-gun, etc.) tick you off, ou're probably guilty of being a moderate.

If listening to eco-nazis makes your blood boil, you're probably a moderate.

If listening to theocons makes your blood boil, you're probably a moderate.

If gross slanders of wide swaths of the citizenry tick you off, you're probably a moderate.

If simplistic agendas that consist of blaming all the world's ills on a single cause or group strike you as childish, you're probably a moderate.

If the politics of outrage and victimization (right and left, respectively) make your teeth ache, you're probably a moderate.

If you believe that no human institution should be destroyed or subverted without a clear understanding of what function that institution was serving, you're a moderate.

If the extreme Right and extreme Left seem to blend before your eyes into a single ugly animal, you're a moderate.

I could go on ...

[Lemur]

P.S.: I often feel "moderate rage." Any moderate should be able to recognize this -- when I hear or read some demagogue of the left or right making huge, sweeping arguments that boil all the complexity of life into a simple, catchy, wrong conclusion, I just want to grab the author by the neck and give him or her a shake.

A further fact about American-style moderation: It's what makes this country great. All around this great nation, we have a defense against idealogues, demagogues, idealists and snake-oil salesmen of many stripes. They come into town with the blogs and their talk shows, spouting off the latest party line like they invented it, and we moderates have an ancient and glorious defense:

"Hey buddy, what's the big idea?"

Yes, this is the ultimate, zen-like wisdom of the Moderate. Big Ideas kill people and destroy nations. Communism was a Big Idea. Fascism was a Big Idea. Wahhabism and Salafism are Big Ideas.

If I had been alive in the '60s, when the Left was having its heyday, I'm sure I would have been instinctively grumpy at the pogressive, hippie scum. They had way too many Big Ideas, and I have no doubt that my moderate tendencies would have forced me to lean rightward for the entire decade. Now the Right is rolling in its own triumphalism, and they're absolutely full of Big Ideas. Any moderate worthy of the label distrusts these movements and views them with a fishy eye.

So, as part of Moderate Rage Week, we ought to look at the blatant partisanship and polarized dialogues of the Backroom, and say with one voice, "What's the big idea?"

[Proletariat]

If the extremists of all parties (left, right, pro-gun, anti-gun, etc.) tick you off, ou're probably guilty of being a moderate.

If listening to eco-nazis makes your blood boil, you're probably a moderate.

If listening to theocons makes your blood boil, you're probably a moderate.

This would make you an imbecile, not a moderate.

If PETA, NRA, Rush, or Franken, are the things you get upset about, you are a jack ass. They represent no real threat to anyone, and are only there for cheerleaders and straw-man construction.

If the extreme Right and extreme Left seem to blend before your eyes into a single ugly animal, you're a moderate.

Moderates are just as stupid as either extreme, only more self-righteous.

[Kanamori]

Them is fightin' words.

[PanzerJaeger]

Can I join?

[kiwitt]

Can I join?

You are declaring you are a "Moderate" as defined above ? If so, yes you can join. Type "I wish to be admitted to the moderate club members list". Note: Any protests by existing members will be taken into consideration and your membership will be reviewed.

I suspect you will change your title "Konservativer Krieger" to show your moderation.

[Don Corleone]

If the extremists of all parties (left, right, pro-gun, anti-gun, etc.) tick you off, ou're probably guilty of being a moderate.

If listening to eco-nazis makes your blood boil, you're probably a moderate.

If listening to theocons makes your blood boil, you're probably a moderate.

If gross slanders of wide swaths of the citizenry tick you off, you're probably a moderate.

If simplistic agendas that consist of blaming all the world's ills on a single cause or group strike you as childish, you're probably a moderate.

If the politics of outrage and victimization (right and left, respectively) make your teeth ache, you're probably a moderate.

If you believe that no human institution should be destroyed or subverted without a clear understanding of what function that institution was serving, you're a moderate.

If the extreme Right and extreme Left seem to blend before your eyes into a single ugly animal, you're a moderate.

I could go on ...

Shit, I answered yes to all of these Maybe Gawain was wrong... we'll just have to wait & see. Are you asking that non-members not post for the time being? We let Jag come into the Conservative Club and play with his pussy, I mean pet his cat, all he wants.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Shit, I answered yes to all of these Maybe Gawain was wrong..

No that proves I was correct. Almost everyone here including myslef would answer yes to all these questions.

Im also opposed to a constitutional amendment on gay marrige and opposed to a total ban on abortion. I guess I really am a radical.

[Kagemusha]

Shit, I answered yes to all of these Maybe Gawain was wrong... we'll just have to wait & see. Are you asking that non-members not post for the time being? We let Jag come into the Conservative Club and play with his pussy, I mean pet his cat, all he wants.

I think this is a open club.If Conservative club is morelike Countryclub this is morelike a nice bub where everyone is wellcomed if they can behave themselves but we are not socialist so drinks arent free.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

I think this is a open club.If Conservative club is morelike Countryclub

Your obviously cluless as to the purpose of the conservative club. Though we do try to provide our members with the best in recreational activities. For instance free club Gitmo gear.

[Kagemusha]

Your obviously cluless as to the purpose of the conservative club. Though we do try to provide our members with the best in recreational activities. For instance free club Gitmo gear.

Damned corruption free club Gitmo gear!

[kiwitt]

Are you asking that non-members not post for the time being?

We accept all posts and requests for membership