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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwitt
    It's fine for others to post, Lemurmania. Free speech and all that. However JAG and PanzerJager have not formally joined as yet.
    Won't*

    A moderate thread with the majority of postings thus far by JAG, Gawain and Panzer?
    Well if you take the average of all our political leanings then you might get nearish the centre.

    And Pape, cute eh, cool. If she meant me or my views, both is good, tell her thank you very much!
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    You guys and your clubs make me ill. Why do you need to coform to an agenda? Are you individuals or aren't you? Why don't you make up your own minds instead of waiting for some fatass politician to tell you what to think.

    Moderates, conservatives, liberals, those are just dumb labels that mean nothing. Deomcracy is about people picking what is right in their own minds not what some ideology and party line says they would *also* believe in.

    I believe that abortion should outlawed, I believe that gay people should be married, I believe that hard criminals should be executed, I believe that health care should be free for anyone who needs it. I don't give to craps about what political party that represents half those values. I only care about enforcing them.

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    You could always start your own party.

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    BP: Thanks for your opinion. I don't like "labels" either. However, with the growing conservatism in some threads, I feel we should have a place for more moderate views. The Conservative Club is already at Version II. Just introducing a little balance after the the Left Wing Club was started.
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    with the growing conservatism in some threads,
    We have always had more Conservatives - and more vocal Conservatives - here than any other political ideology. Probably due to amount of US patrons who we have.
    GARCIN: I "dreamt," you say. It was no dream. When I chose the hardest path, I made my choice deliberately. A man is what he wills himself to be.
    INEZ: Prove it. Prove it was no dream. It's what one does, and nothing else, that shows the stuff one's made of.
    GARCIN: I died too soon. I wasn't allowed time to - to do my deeds.
    INEZ: One always dies too soon - or too late. And yet one's whole life is complete at that moment, with a line drawn neatly under it, ready for the summing up. You are - your life, and nothing else.

    Jean Paul Sartre - No Exit 1944

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    BP, I dont really like labels either, but that is what a moderate is all about.

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    Red Harvest,King of Atlantis and Gawain of Orkeny.
    Nice to see that you have joined the Moderate Club.I think we should have the best debates of these Clubs,because we can have different opinions on all subjects.Beiing a moderate means to me that you dont have to fallow any allready made isms but to make your own opinions on each subject.As for example im pro for war on Afghanistan,Against war on Iraq,Pro abortion untill certain limit,against US assault weapons bann,Pro weapons exporting bann on China and pro Social market economy as government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byzantine Prince
    You guys and your clubs make me ill. Why do you need to coform to an agenda? Are you individuals or aren't you? Why don't you make up your own minds instead of waiting for some fatass politician to tell you what to think.

    Moderates, conservatives, liberals, those are just dumb labels that mean nothing. Deomcracy is about people picking what is right in their own minds not what some ideology and party line says they would *also* believe in.

    I believe that abortion should outlawed, I believe that gay people should be married, I believe that hard criminals should be executed, I believe that health care should be free for anyone who needs it. I don't give to craps about what political party that represents half those values. I only care about enforcing them.
    Well im gonna agree with you. Labels and partys are only for sheeps. Men have own opinions. Many people here scream ''you are a liberal'' ''you are conservative''. I wonder do they get payed to be so fanatic? cause as i see it in the end they are all just screwed the same by goverments.
    I consider myself a free democratic man who tries to be just as much as he can. Sometimes i support new ideas some times traditional values. In some aspects im left in some right. In general im just me. Those labels only harm. Just state your opinion you dont need a gang to do it. Dont give the chance to people to walk all over your views by just wrapping you with a ''witch'' like accusation.

    As a friend metahead of mine sais: opinions are like assholes. Everybody has one.
    Last edited by Idomeneas; 07-19-2005 at 00:06.
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