The Moderate's Club

[Papewaio]

Although having said that, Pape most definitely is a 7

Wasabi reckons you are one of the cuter posters too... with her Political Economics degree I wasn't sure if she meant the content of your posts or the post of your picture.

[Lemur]

A moderate thread with the majority of postings thus far by JAG, Gawain and Panzer?

If we're to observe these standards going forward, we'll need to invite G. Gordon Liddy and the ghost of Timothy Leary in to this fine, moderate thread. They can have tea and crumpets with Karl Rove and Ted Kennedy. Kumbaiya, indeed.

[kiwitt]

It's fine for others to post, Lemurmania. Free speech and all that. However JAG and PanzerJager have not formally joined as yet.

[JAG]

It's fine for others to post, Lemurmania. Free speech and all that. However JAG and PanzerJager have not formally joined as yet.

Won't*

A moderate thread with the majority of postings thus far by JAG, Gawain and Panzer?

Well if you take the average of all our political leanings then you might get nearish the centre.

And Pape, cute eh, cool. If she meant me or my views, both is good, tell her thank you very much!

[Byzantine Prince]

You guys and your clubs make me ill. Why do you need to coform to an agenda? Are you individuals or aren't you? Why don't you make up your own minds instead of waiting for some fatass politician to tell you what to think.

Moderates, conservatives, liberals, those are just dumb labels that mean nothing. Deomcracy is about people picking what is right in their own minds not what some ideology and party line says they would *also* believe in.

I believe that abortion should outlawed, I believe that gay people should be married, I believe that hard criminals should be executed, I believe that health care should be free for anyone who needs it. I don't give to craps about what political party that represents half those values. I only care about enforcing them.

[Crazed Rabbit]

You could always start your own party.

Crazed Rabbit

[kiwitt]

BP: Thanks for your opinion. I don't like "labels" either. However, with the growing conservatism in some threads, I feel we should have a place for more moderate views. The Conservative Club is already at Version II. Just introducing a little balance after the the Left Wing Club was started.

[JAG]

with the growing conservatism in some threads,

We have always had more Conservatives - and more vocal Conservatives - here than any other political ideology. Probably due to amount of US patrons who we have.

[King of Atlantis]

BP, I dont really like labels either, but that is what a moderate is all about.

[Kagemusha]

Red Harvest,King of Atlantis and Gawain of Orkeny.
Nice to see that you have joined the Moderate Club.I think we should have the best debates of these Clubs,because we can have different opinions on all subjects.Beiing a moderate means to me that you dont have to fallow any allready made isms but to make your own opinions on each subject.As for example im pro for war on Afghanistan,Against war on Iraq,Pro abortion untill certain limit,against US assault weapons bann,Pro weapons exporting bann on China and pro Social market economy as government.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

The Conservative Club is already at Version II.

The only reason we are at versiom two is that the mods left out the original one when we changed sites. I guess it contained to many posts. It was the largest non pinned thread here.

Just introducing a little balance after the the Left Wing Club was started.

Balance was introduced with the founding of the conservative club. This is version 4 of the left wing club.

We have always had more Conservatives - and more vocal Conservatives - here than any other political ideology.

Oh please. Conservative as compared to you maybe That includes pretty much the whole org.

Probably due to amount of US patrons who we have.

Yup to you all Americans are pretty much conservatives.

[Kagemusha]

Have these Clubs turned into dual between JAG and Gawain?

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Have these Clubs turned into dual between JAG and Gawain?

No. AS has been stated these other clubs come and go and have never lasted very long. Jag does constantly stick his nose in the Conserrvative club. But thats the way the cookie crumbles. All are free to post there.

[Kagemusha]

No. AS has been stated these other clubs come and go and have never lasted very long. Jag does constantly stick his nose in the Conserrvative club. But thats the way the cookie crumbles. All are free to post there.

Have you noticed that im pretty good at talking to myself if necessary. Did you read my earlier post about how i see beiing a moderate?I would really like to know whats your opinion on those matters.

[A.Saturnus]

I`d count myself as moderate simply because of regression to the mean.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Did you read my earlier post about how i see beiing a moderate?I would really like to know whats your opinion on those matters.

NP

Beiing a moderate means to me that you dont have to fallow any allready made isms but to make your own opinions on each subject.As for example im pro for war on Afghanistan,Against war on Iraq,Pro abortion untill certain limit,against US assault weapons bann,Pro weapons exporting bann on China and pro Social market economy as government.

I was for the war in Afghanistan. I was oppossed to the war in Iraq not because we didnt have the right to do it but because I didnt think it would be worth it. Im against all abortion but am willing to compromise and allow it for the first trimester. Im against the assualt weapons ban ,Pro weapons exporting bann on China . I think there should be as little government as possible. Im a constitutionalist.

[Kagemusha]

Im against war on Iraq because i think in order to benefit the war on terrorism.You should have striked Syria or Iran,because in my mind they ar the number one harbours of terrorists.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

You left out Saudi Arabia

[Kagemusha]

You left out Saudi Arabia

Isnt it bit unrealistic because they are your allies. But what ive read.Saudi-Arabia have infact done some terrorist chasing in their country.How would you think US should react if there would be an civil war in Saudi-Arabia?Because i think if Saudi-Arabia would be a democratic nation it would be very extrem islamist.

[Red Harvest]

Spoken like a true extremist.

Didn't take long for this to become a thread about Gawain, now did it?

Yep, Gawain is an extremist. Anyone to the left of him is a liberal in his book. Finding someone to the right of him is a challenge.

[Red Harvest]

I think this thread should be re-named the "I'm Gawain of Orkney! Look at me look at me! Club"...

Agreed.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Yep, Gawain is an extremist. Anyone to the left of him is a liberal in his book. Finding someone to the right of him is a challenge.

Again you should talk. Anyone to the right of you is a conservative in your book. The difference between us is that im honest as to where I stand. As to it being hard to find anyone to the right of me thats BS. Panzer,Crazed Rabbit and Kapo are all right of me and thats just for starts.

I think this thread should be re-named the "I'm Gawain of Orkney! Look at me look at me! Club"..

You people really are pitiful. Arent you all from TWC?

[Don Corleone]

If the extremists of all parties (left, right, pro-gun, anti-gun, etc.) tick you off, ou're probably guilty of being a moderate.

If listening to eco-nazis makes your blood boil, you're probably a moderate.

If listening to theocons makes your blood boil, you're probably a moderate.

If gross slanders of wide swaths of the citizenry tick you off, you're probably a moderate.

If simplistic agendas that consist of blaming all the world's ills on a single cause or group strike you as childish, you're probably a moderate.

If the politics of outrage and victimization (right and left, respectively) make your teeth ache, you're probably a moderate.

If you believe that no human institution should be destroyed or subverted without a clear understanding of what function that institution was serving, you're a moderate.

If the extreme Right and extreme Left seem to blend before your eyes into a single ugly animal, you're a moderate.

I could go on ...

Shit, I answered yes to all of these Maybe Gawain was wrong... we'll just have to wait & see. Are you asking that non-members not post for the time being? We let Jag come into the Conservative Club and play with his pussy, I mean pet his cat, all he wants.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Shit, I answered yes to all of these Maybe Gawain was wrong..

No that proves I was correct. Almost everyone here including myslef would answer yes to all these questions.

Im also opposed to a constitutional amendment on gay marrige and opposed to a total ban on abortion. I guess I really am a radical.

[Don Corleone]

Why of course I see myself as a 6. See its easy were all moderates. Im serious here.

To be fair and honest, I'd put myself at a 7. I don't think I'm in the middle, and I really doubt any of you do. For some reason, our culture has come to believe that middle=normal=good, not just in politics, but everything. Look at how brainy kids and stupid kids get treated at school I disagree with all of this watering down. I never want to be average.

[Kagemusha]

Shit, I answered yes to all of these Maybe Gawain was wrong... we'll just have to wait & see. Are you asking that non-members not post for the time being? We let Jag come into the Conservative Club and play with his pussy, I mean pet his cat, all he wants.

I think this is a open club.If Conservative club is morelike Countryclub this is morelike a nice bub where everyone is wellcomed if they can behave themselves but we are not socialist so drinks arent free.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

I think this is a open club.If Conservative club is morelike Countryclub

Your obviously cluless as to the purpose of the conservative club. Though we do try to provide our members with the best in recreational activities. For instance free club Gitmo gear.

[Kagemusha]

Your obviously cluless as to the purpose of the conservative club. Though we do try to provide our members with the best in recreational activities. For instance free club Gitmo gear.

Damned corruption free club Gitmo gear!

[Goofball]

Hmmm.

There really is no club for me.

I'm socially very liberal and I make no bones about it, but for this reason the Conservative Club pretty much bars the doors when I come knocking.

On the other hand, being a rabid capitalist and labor union hater, my views are quite conservative when it comes to how I think governments should tax/spend, so the Liberal Club is really not the place for me either.

Finally, since none of my views are really "moderate" (at least by American standards), I don't really fit in the Moderate Club either.

[Ser Clegane]

Hmmm.

There really is no club for me.

I think the Backroom definitely needs more clubs