Quote Originally Posted by PanzerJager
I believe that America failed to realize how much the Sunni factions in Iraq had invested in Saddam's regime.

We see very low levels of violence in the northern Kurd areas and the southern Shia areas.

The main source of home grown terror is the sunnis. Not only do they attack coalition forces but now they have started slaughtering Kurds and Shias in the streets.

Most analysts seem to think the reason for the shift from attacking coalition troops to attacking iraqi civilians is to cause a civil war.

I say let them have it.

Thus far, we have tried our hardest to keep the shia and kurds from responding with violence, and they have.

I say we arm the Shia and Kurds and let them do our dirty work for us. They speak the language, they know the streets, and they're mad as hell. I feel they would do a better job prosecuting this war than we ever could.

Some people see civil war as the worst possible option, but in reality that isnt the case. Often times throughout history civil wars have corrected the wrongs of a country.

My guess would be that a civil war would last about a month as the sunni have no real power or control over the nation anyway. The Kurds and Shia backed by the Americans would quickly "rectify" the situation and put the Sunni in their place.. the place of a 20% minority in a democracy, not an overthrown aristocracy throwing a temper tantrum.

Well thats my small-minded opinion. Of course since it wreaks of the kind of real politik Americans arent willing to accept anymore and the media have built civil war up into the worst kind of disaster that could befall the country, it will never happen.

Any opinions on the "let them fight it out" opinion, or any alternate opinions?
1. What you say is the final proof the USA aren't able to control the Iraq.

2. That Civilwar would have no other Result than this:
- Kurdistan declares Independance and causes Kurdish uprises elsewhere
- The Sunni are slaughtered
- The Shia control the South and degrade the Minority
- If you leave the Shia alone you'll have a Godstate in Result
- All three will hate each other and the USA even more
- Iran and Syria supporting their Factions in a Civilwar

3. "Realpolitik" is a term by Otto von Bismarck you have never understood, stop useing it.

4. Finally what "Realpolitik" means with the Iraq.
A) The "Realpolitik" Wargoals of the USA have been:
- Takeout Weapons of Massdestruction (Legitimation)
- Create domestic Tensions in the European Union
- Divert the Population from internal troubles (Recession, unemployment)
- Save the Anti-Islamism in the Population to justify boosted Armament
- Turn the Iraq by force into a Democrathy and Puppet of the USA
- Put the Iraqi Econnomy to Puppetstatus as an open Market

B) The "Realpolitik" Result of the Iraqwar is:
- The Weapons of Massdestruction have been a fake to justify the action
- The War caused extremely negative impact on the USA's global Relations
- Tensions between London-Rome and Berlin-Paris-Moscow created
- The War causes domestic unrest with the Population
- The Worldrecord Arnament is pushed through
- The creation of a "democrathic Iraq" Puppet succeeds
- The Puppets is totally dependently and would collapse without the USA
- The Puppet-Econnomy of Iraq is unable to work and produces cost