Humanitas

[Franconicus]

Where I can get those?

I worked on a system for all members worldwide to get free drinks. Here it is:
1. Transfer me the membership fee (1,000€) ,
2. Take the bill to the bar tender in your local pub
3. Enjoy your drink

[Ianofsmeg16]

i'm not sure thats entirely legal..
ah well drinks on Franconicus !!!

[Louis VI the Fat]

Do I have to go to Louvain to have a sex change to join too?

Else count me in

[A.Saturnus]

That's what I thought. Now if another humanist (who may or may not be metro-sexually inclined) argues for a retributive notion of justice, where does that place our Humanitas?

It places it in ambiguity like all other complex human made concepts. Argueing in favour of retribution might be possible for a humanist as long as it`s clear that the rights of every person may not be restricted too far whatever the circumstances.

Do I have to go to Louvain to have a sex change to join too?

No, but it might help in your case.

[Pindar]

It places it in ambiguity like all other complex human made concepts. Argueing in favour of retribution might be possible for a humanist as long as it`s clear that the rights of every person may not be restricted too far whatever the circumstances.

Then that plank of Humanitas would need to be altered to be less categorical.

[A.Saturnus]

Then that plank of Humanitas would need to be altered to be less categorical.

No, I don`t think so. We`re educated and tolerant enough to accept fuzzy categories.

[Pindar]

No, I don`t think so. We`re educated and tolerant enough to accept fuzzy categories.

Why have categories at all then? Sounds kind of oppressive.

[A.Saturnus]

Why have categories at all then?

Convenience?

[Papewaio]

How does a Humanist deal with an aggressive individual/nation.

[Franconicus]

You protect yourself. But you try to avoid physical violence or even destruction as much as possible. Because you respect and love the aggressor .
And you will never follow the idea of a preventive war

Mahadma Gandhi is a great example for it. And shows that it does not mean look away and do nothing.

[Franconicus]

What is your favorit humanistic book?

[Papewaio]

What is your favorit humanistic book?

Starship Troopers.

[A.Saturnus]

How does a Humanist deal with an aggressive individual/nation.

You kill him dead and then say that you`re very sorry.

[scooter_the_shooter]

So you say no wars of agression. What if its against an evil dictator whose killed over 100,000 of his own people.

[A.Saturnus]

Who do you address?

[Pindar]

You kill him dead and then say that you`re very sorry.

A sound policy.

[A.Saturnus]

No, seriously, I think we should respond to aggression with all necessary force. Just not a bit more.

[Franconicus]

Well said, Saturnus

[scooter_the_shooter]

HAY what happened to ALL pasificst. Now you are all saying "kill the ENEMY"

[Ianofsmeg16]

I do not beleive in Violence without nessecity, there is no reason to start a fight for no reason, that's not pacifism, thats realism....
can i be a member?

[Franconicus]

You are welcome. Just define what is necessity, please. I know that pacifism is seen very contrary. Some even refuse to use violence when they are attacked. Like Gandhi. I really respect that. He had his way to fight for his ideas. Others only use violence to defend themselves or their families. That is alright too.
I would not accept that war or violence is acceptable if you cannot reach your goals with peaceful means. Or any kind of preventive war.

Caesar, great to have you here! Did they kick you out of the Left Wing Club? Let's firts have a drink

[Ianofsmeg16]

@Franconicus, that's exactly what i believe, the pacifism bit AND the Drink bit lol ;)

[AntiochusIII]

Hey, er... how come the name sounds rather...Spanish?

[Franconicus]

Well, maybe because it is Latin.

[AntiochusIII]

Well, maybe because it is Latin.

Ah, I see. Count me in. :)

[Franconicus]

Welcome! We have really some good guys now.

P.S.: You know where the bar is?

[Sigurd]

Religious Tolerance

How does this work?

[Franconicus]

Actually, very good!
What exactly do you want to know?

[Ianofsmeg16]

You know where the bar is?

Well, were in the Backroom of the Tavern.....
so are you goona write down a members list? I need a group to belong to now the AJC has gone bust

[A.Saturnus]

How does this work?

That means that we only snicker behind your backs about our silly ideas