Three stories which sayd it all about Iraq

[Gawain of Orkeny]

You dont think people in Iraq still live in fear?

A very different kind of fear. Again now at least they have hope.

maybe you should provide evidence before you call something crap..

Read the rest of your post after that quote. You just said the samething I did. He repressed the majority of Muslims in his country. Thats why those on the left tell us they could never work together.

Sadam and bin laden dont get along cause they are opposing islamic forces, much like protestant and catholic fuedes.

[King of Atlantis]

Represtion of other islamic sects is very prevelant in the middle east as it was in medieval europe, hardly a feature of Iraq.

and anyways you alawys seem to skim over a large point in my post..

IRAQ was not a place of fear as you seem to point out. I left plenty of evidence of this in my previous post.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

IRAQ was not a place of fear as you seem to point out. I left plenty of evidence of this in my previous post.

Why because they allowed churches. Come on you have shown no such thing. It seems you have no comprhension at all what life was like under Saddam. I guess those 300000 mass graves dont indicate anything. Naive dosent begin to describe what your saying. Maybe you would have liked to live in the USSR or Nazi Germany.

[King of Atlantis]

? Did i only talk about churches? The man i talked about went into great detail about how friendly the people were and even kind to a westerner. Was Sadam nice-hell no, but his people did live in overwhelmin fear, they simply lived as they knew how, that is why there was no Iraqi civil war, the people were satisfied with the only way the knew to live, now the live on true fear as the cant live their normal lives.


-What man truly fears is the unkown-

[Ironside]

Why because they allowed churches. Come on you have shown no such thing. It seems you have no comprhension at all what life was like under Saddam. I guess those 300000 mass graves dont indicate anything. Naive dosent begin to describe what your saying. Maybe you would have liked to live in the USSR or Nazi Germany.

I suspect the issue is that depending on if you were a Sunni, Shia or Kurd affected much of the oppression.
AFAIK most (all?) massgraves are on Kurds or Shia muslims, so if you were a Sunni, not complaining on the goverment you were relativly safe, while not being a Sunni increased the odds for you getting murdered increased quite much. While with the current chaos, it's more random.

To use your Hitler/Stalin comparation. If you were German and not openly against the Nazis, you were quite safe, but if you were Jew, you were doomed. While in Stalin's USSR none were safe. Case B is scarier for the "safe" group(s), while A is scarier for the unsafe group(s).
Notice that this comparation is only used for the principle as the situations is very different.

BTW is there any fresh massgraves (as in from 1998- forward) found?

[Lazul]

... and here I am, still wondering why the US didnt invade Saudi-Arabia!?

gha! the world doesnt make sense!

[ah_dut]

Put it this way...We are there, what you going to do? leave and let a bloody Civil War break out? I don't think so. We stay until the job is done...unless any of you got a better idea?

I don't agree with the war, but we took on the job and we had damn well better finish it

[scooter_the_shooter]

Yeah lefties listen to ahdut. IF our countries messed their lives up so much, dont we owe it to them to make their country stable.

[King of Atlantis]

Put it this way...We are there, what you going to do? leave and let a bloody Civil War break out? I don't think so. We stay until the job is done...unless any of you got a better idea?

I don't agree with the war, but we took on the job and we had damn well better finish it

I dont think anybody wants to just pack up and leave, but this war was a bad idea.

[Ironside]

... and here I am, still wondering why the US didnt invade Saudi-Arabia!?

gha! the world doesnt make sense!

It's obvious! Because Nuder didn't want to lose tax money. The slow way works much better...