Discussion - Reinvigorating MTW/VI

**Tiger_Tamerlane** · 08-26-2005, 01:37

Cool,that will make a few of our members very happy.
The 4 Senators and a few Members will join ,thx temi.

**EatYerGreens** · 08-28-2005, 11:09

On the subject of re-invigoration, I've only been on MP for a couple of days and already have seen at least half a dozen people come on, having 'just bought' the game and eager to give it a go but getting immediate frustration at not being able to see any games to join.

Luckily there are plenty of people willing to to take them through the whole process of patching, where to download from and so on. Noob I may be but I've read the MP guides and even I have been able to help a few. (Of course, I plug the forum gratuitously, too :D )

It's getting to the point where I'm thinking things like "how can I get a macro to type all this in the chat window?" LOL

Speaking of which, some players seem able to sent the same chat message several times per second (spammers included). I can't work out how to do this - is it a Gamespy feature? (We encourage as many as we can to dump it and log on via the game).

[EDIT: I've been given the reply to this online but, so as to discourage potential spamming, I'll not reveal what it is. ]

Anyway, there's a pile of new players joining but I think this is the 'bargain bin effect' because they are all using MTW. Is VI hard to find on the shop shelves these days, or something? (I'm not a regular visitor to the PC store).

One last thing. There is no RTFM get-out clause for some noob questions. Apparently the bargain edition doesn't have one.

I've gone and signed the CoH, so I'll have to do whatever I can, when I can, for them. The more, the merrier, as they say.

I've seen 6 people online and I've seen 56 people online. How does that rate compared to the old days?

**Geezer57** · 08-28-2005, 18:11

Originally Posted by EatYerGreens

Anyway, there's a pile of new players joining but I think this is the 'bargain bin effect' because they are all using MTW. Is VI hard to find on the shop shelves these days, or something? (I'm not a regular visitor to the PC store).

I browse the store shelves just about every week - plain MTW v1.0 is in the bargain bins everywhere, less frequently encountered but still common is the MTW-VI combo pack, but the standalone VI add-on is scarce as hen's teeth.

**Tiger_Tamerlane** · 08-28-2005, 18:32

eBay.Here in Germany i have buy the Viking Add-On at eBay for 6.99 Euro.

**EatYerGreens** · 08-28-2005, 18:46

Originally Posted by Geezer57

less frequently encountered but still common is the MTW-VI combo pack, but the standalone VI add-on is scarce as hen's teeth.

That's not good news.

This is crazy marketing policy. They're treating it just like it's any of a million other computer games and expect it to go the way of the rest of them. However, that's because typical games begin to look dated as soon as the latest one comes along.

The 'genres', however, have persisted for quite some years. You have first-person shooters, role-play games, sports simulations and so forth.

What they seem to have forgotten is that table-top wargames have been around for ages and still continue to appeal to upcoming generations. Anyone who's ever played 'Risk' can instantly get to grips with the MTW strategy game and with the 3D battles on top and multiplayer, it has just about everything one could hope for. A table-top game, rich in detail, that doesn't even need packing away when you're done for the day. One couldn't ask for much more than that. Hang on, I'm forgetting it's near-infinitely customiseable too.

By rights, people will still be wanting a game like this several years from now but, the way it's being handled now, it just won't be there.

I don't know how the sales of Rome went, compared to MTW but, if it was any less, you can bet some executive has laid down the law and said "let's not progress further down this line, get to work on something else".

**Jochi Khan** · 08-28-2005, 21:34

Hi EatYerGreens

Try www.amazon.co.uk
You can get the Viking Invasion stand alone there for £7.97.

Jochi

**EatYerGreens** · 08-29-2005, 10:57

Originally Posted by Jochi Khan

Hi EatYerGreens

Try www.amazon.co.uk
You can get the Viking Invasion stand alone there for £7.97.

Jochi

Hi Jochi,

thanks for the info. I have VI myself, so this is not a problem for me. The point I was making is that some of the people currently picking up clearance-priced copies of MTW may become interested in VI, thanks to hearing about it in the forums but, when they go looking to buy it, they're going to have problems finding a copy, other than second-hand.

Since it was an optional expansion-pack, the chances are that stockpiles of VI fall well short of the numbers of MTW disks in circulation.

I suppose the key factor here is whether factory production of either, or both titles has irreversibly come to a halt.

Ironically, some of the table-top games of pre-computer days are still on sale even now. I say this game is a long-term earner, albeit at low sales volume and thus unlikely to place CA's name in the weekly chart - like that was even important.

**Gawain of Orkeny** · 09-10-2005, 06:00

Ironically, some of the table-top games of pre-computer days are still on sale even now. I say this game is a long-term earner, albeit at low sales volume and thus unlikely to place CA's name in the weekly chart - like that was even important.

I think the only thing that can kill off MTW/VI will be closing down the server. Ive been plauing it for 3 years now and its still my favorite and in fact almost the only game I play.

What they seem to have forgotten is that table-top wargames have been around for ages and still continue to appeal to upcoming generations. Anyone who's ever played 'Risk' can instantly get to grips with the MTW strategy game and with the 3D battles on top and multiplayer, it has just about everything one could hope for. A table-top game, rich in detail, that doesn't even need packing away when you're done for the day. One couldn't ask for much more than that. Hang on, I'm forgetting it's near-infinitely customiseable too.

When I was a little kid I started with Stratego and risk and of course plastic soldiers of all kinds and eras. Then as a teen I got into Avalon Hill and Strategic Simulation table top war games. Calling Jutland a table top game was a real joke as you had to have a good sized room to plot it all out on the floor. There were no computers or even video games. The along came the Turbo Graphic 16 and Hertzog Zewi and a turn based game whos name escapes me. Then all sorts of neat war games for consoles and computers But nothing comes even close to VI MP .MTW was everything had ever wanted in a game and VI just made it better. Thats why Rome was so dissapointing as I thought it would be the same but with better graphics and more untis. Instead it bares little resemblance to these games or STW. I still have 1 or 2 old table top games still shrink wrapped from the 80s.