Turkey into EU or not ?

**edyzmedieval** · 07-20-2005, 09:35

I would approve Turkey in the EU, but, after a long time of preparations.

With suicide attacks, there's no way that they can enter.

**LeftEyeNine** · 07-20-2005, 09:49

..With suicide attacks, there's no way that they can enter...

Sorry to interrupt, but this is a baseless claim.. So you think that Turkey is guilty for 7/7 London ?

I will no interrupt does not mean that, flame your fiction off, edzymedieval. Those guys killed many in Istanbul attacks last summer. Please give a reasonable point of view..

**Radier** · 07-20-2005, 10:10

Only 3% of Turkey is in EU.

Their primeminister seems to be a madman too... Just look at my sig.

And it´s enough of muslims in EU allready. We don´t need another 70 millions...

**Snowhobbit** · 07-20-2005, 10:23

When they have a better record of human rights and have left Cyprus, I can see little reason for not allowing them in.
Hums People are people

**King Henry V** · 07-20-2005, 10:20

Originally Posted by LeftEyeNine

Sorry to interrupt, but this is a baseless claim.. So you think that Turkey is guilty for 7/7 London ?

I will no interrupt does not mean that, flame your fiction off, edzymedieval. Those guys killed many in Istanbul attacks last summer. Please give a reasonable point of view..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4688575.stm

**King of Atlantis** · 07-20-2005, 10:24

I cant see the Eu ever making decisions if it is so diverse.

**King Henry V** · 07-20-2005, 10:25

I do not think that Turkey should be allowed to join the EU, firstly because of the geographical argument and the poor situation of HR, and secondly, with its first world skills and third world wages, it is likely to destory the EU....Hang on! We should welcome Turkey with open arms!

**LeftEyeNine** · 07-20-2005, 10:37

Originally Posted by King Henry V

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4688575.stm

The news you talk about goes like this :

"...A group called the Kurdish Liberation Hawks (Tak) said it carried out the bombing in Cesme on 10 July.

Their overall aim is to force the Turkish government to grant autonomy to the predominantly Kurdish south-east of the country, but the means to that end appears to be to strike at the tourism industry - the life blood of the Turkish economy, our correspondent says.

The Tak is an offshoot of the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK), which has been fighting the government for independence since 1984. More than 37,000 people have been killed in the 20-year campaign by the PKK, which is considered a terrorist organisation by the US and EU..."

PKK, the Kurdish terrorist group that killed over 30.000 people since 1984, generally used to attempt these kinds of attacks in touristic places of Turkey in the previous years as well.

However their activity was really stopped with continous operations of Turkish Armed Forces for a long time. And when that EU thing showed up itself, they want to create fear over foreigners about Turkey to make social impact on them.

This bombing has no relationship with Islamic terrorism. Islamic terrorism has significant and clear targets, you'll find out if you ever work on it out a bit.

Consequently, this assault was not Turkish job, it was obviously Kurdish terrorists' job. There are 13 millions of them in Turkey as a community. And know that not anyone who calls himself "Turk" may not really be "Turk", especially those living in EU countries. We have really differencies with Kurdish society. And there is an endless conflict between two nations since the foundation of Turkey. BTW, I am Turkish in origin.

Edit : You may want to read about the comments on the related news which belong to British tourists that visited Turkey.

**el_slapper** · 07-20-2005, 10:47

Turkey is technically in military occupation of 1/3 of an EU country. As long as this is not properly solved(whatever the solution, as long as locals are approving it), Turkey in Europe is a no-go in my book.

**Radier** · 07-20-2005, 10:47

http://www.voiceforeurope.org/

I think the best thing to do is to vote all over Europe. "Shall Turkey enter the European Union?"

**LeftEyeNine** · 07-20-2005, 10:58

Erm, one more thing.. I am an anti-EU sider.

**lancelot** · 07-20-2005, 11:15

Im afraid I would say no.

Firstly I dont really consider turkey 'european'. I wonder what percentage of turks do either?

Second, I envisage a lot of cheap labour moving across the border. The UK, IMHO, has far too much cheap labour coming from slavic nations and former colonies. I believe this only benefits big business and fat cat corporations...hence my distaste.

Third, (and this is not my particular opinion-but I will play devil's advocate here) but what will the EU get out of turkey's membership? Will any benefits outweigh the cost?