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    Well as I watched the Supreme Court announcement tonight I was struck by the disappointment some in the media seemed to feel when the anouncment was made and it was just a white guy.

    I noticed the same thing during the papal election. A minority was certainly the media favorite, and they didn't care who it was as long as their skin wasn't white.

    It seems like every time a position of power comes into play these days the media create a lot of hype for a minority or a woman of some kind.

    The ethnicity and sex of a person seems to have become just as important or more so than that person's qualification.

    I sat pounding my head as Bill Crystal and Fred Barnes discussed the risk Bush took in nominating a white male to the position and how a black woman like Brown would have been the safer choice.

    It seems like this whole situation is being driven by the media as well. If you talk to most westerners of any persuasion I think they would say they want the best qualified people in positions of power, not token minorities.

    Isn't this whole tolerance bit supposed to work both ways? In a color blind society should the media play cheerleader for minorities?

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    Panzer im with you. Racial equality really should mean equality, not handicaping white males cause they have been since the birth of the country.
    People tell us not to judge people by their skin(which i dont), but then they can see it as far as rascit to not give minorities special treatment.

    So many anti-racist-racists.

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    Panzer you are correct. The ethnicity or sex have become qualifying factors in most societies today and this is plain wrong. However until some years ago colour, ethnicity and sex were the only determining factors so it should take some time until we reach an 'ideal society' where things like that do not matter.

    Unfrotunately racial and sexual inequalities persist, not only in the US ( where things are really bad...just look the percentage of young african americans in prison, from an economic point of view the loss of income is enough to hold them in ghetto conditions forever...) but also in Europe ( A white male will face much less unemployment than any other sex/ethnic/racial group in the UK ). Races form ghettos here as well.

    Untill we manage to achieve a good homogenous income distribution and area distribution of all races and until races actually start mixing with eachother to blur the borders then we will still have people who are racially/ethnically disadvantaged. And we will have hidden racism ( those people who are ok with africans/pakistanis/indians and they even have some friends from these backgrounds but would really hate to see on of them move to their neighbourhood or see their daughter get married to one ). Until such homogeneity is achieved, some form of positive racial/sexual discrimination will unfortunately be needed. I hate it, I want it to stop, but I will accept it until we have an ideal and fair society that doesnt discriminate by the colour of one persons skin...
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    Rasoforos you don't need a different color skin to descriminate. You can discriminate based on someone who is gay, you can even discriminate against someone who has a different fashion sense from you.

    Just by getting rid of races, IMO a very bad thing, discrimination will not end.

    What needs to hapen is that people need to be more openminded and more objective.

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    I did mention sexual discrimination my friend. My point is that until people stop discriminating others, some 'positive' discrimination , although it is something I do not aprove, will be needed.

    I have just targeted racial discrimination because its the most obvious and has the most striking effects. ( believe me I know...my neighbourhood has like 10 curry and doner takeaways and no fish n chips shop , even here people try not to mix and interact with eachother )
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    I can understand the so called positive discrimination at entry level jobs.

    But when it comes to the elite level surely it should be based on suitability and ability for the job regardless of ethnic background (or sexuality etc).

    It would be a retarded requirement to make it that racial equality is enforced for sports teams at the elite level. Just as it is retarded not to encourage mixing of teams at the junior level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PanzerJager
    I noticed the same thing during the papal election. A minority was certainly the media favorite, and they didn't care who it was as long as their skin wasn't white.
    Which "minority" would that have been in the papal election?

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    My point is that until people stop discriminating others
    Not only do we all discriminate other people everyday its a nessicity of life.
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    I think we are losing sight of the meaning of 'discriminate'. Seeing a difference is inherently discriminatory.

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    I think we are losing sight of the meaning of 'discriminate'. Seeing a difference is inherently discriminatory.
    Im saying we all disriminate against other people for various reasons. Some of them are needed. The problem is which are needed and which are just plain discrimination for no good reason.
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    Default Re: Does the Media Create Expectations for Minorities?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ser Clegane
    Which "minority" would that have been in the papal election?

    many of the balck canidates got the most press in the U.S. A lot of the news were aready calling them the winners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King of Atlantis
    many of the balck canidates got the most press in the U.S. A lot of the news were aready calling them the winners.
    Considering the large number of black Catholics in Africa and e.g., Brasil I would not really consider them to be a "minority".

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    Default Re: Does the Media Create Expectations for Minorities?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ser Clegane
    Considering the large number of black Catholics in Africa and e.g., Brasil I would not really consider them to be a "minority".
    They are a minority in the U.S and they were treated with media minority care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King of Atlantis
    They are a minority in the U.S and they were treated with media minority care.
    For the papal elections the ethnic setup of the US population is irrelevant - the coverage of black or "non-white" candidates seems rather appropriate in this context.

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