Oh, so you brush me into the same category as Panzer now? How nice.Originally Posted by Bartix
If you read my post, you would notice that I am opposing the fact that Panzer proposes to wipe out half a people, comparing it to a hundred million on the world population. If you relatify that ratio, 2.5 billion people would have had to die to match the effect 10 million dead would have had on the Jewish people.
And yes, I do believe that if half a people is wiped out, or, to put this in modern, real terms: millions of people die in Darfur, then I find that worse than some three thousand in a building somewhere. Both are terrible, but what I oppose is that the immediateness of the killings in NYC are deemed much worse than those in Darfur.
But, we agree on an ethical level here. That means there is a very slight chance you and me will agree here. Therefore I propose we leave such debate to the Backroom, yes?
Oh, and Advo-san: I know exactly that you're talking to me. And indeed, a person should be judged on his own actions; the same goes for governments. Therefore people should not be judged on the actions of their nation in the past, for that is foolish and you surrender your own capability of thought, that which puts you above animals, to simple and animalistic fear.
Such an action would mean the Netherlands should pay reparations to each and every descendant of each and every person we ever wronged, and that each Dutchman should help pay those reparations. This includes all the slaves we ever traded, plus Spanish, Portuguese, English, Indonesians, and the list goes on and on and on and on. Completely useless. Preposterous to think that some people think that way.
But, I repeat what I said above. I will not go for any more baiting. Consider any more ethical debates (and indeed baits) to be ignored by me from now on.
~Wiz
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