Senators introduce `work and return' immigration measure

**Gawain of Orkeny** · 07-21-2005, 06:15

Why not just grant Mexico statehood?

**bmolsson** · 07-21-2005, 06:23

Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny

Why not just grant Mexico statehood?

Very good comeback...

Actually it also makes sense....

**Lemur** · 07-21-2005, 06:32

Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny

Why not just grant Mexico statehood?

We had that option in the 1800s. If I recall correctly, we had the Marines in the middle of Mexico City, and there was more than a little discussion about annexing the whole peninsula.

Why on earth didn't we?

**Gawain of Orkeny** · 07-21-2005, 06:35

Why on earth didn't we?

Do you want to take all those poor people as citizens? Can you imagine how much it would cost us in welfare and the like ?

What I want to know is why they didnt make Long Island a state with Brooklyn as its capital.

**Lemur** · 07-21-2005, 06:40

Well, if we took them in in the mid-1800s, they'd all be fat happy Americans by now. Imagine five or six extra states that all resemble Floida -- oooh, the possibilities.

If Long Island were made a state, I dunno, you'd have Billy Joel made a Senator or something. Frightening. People take their Billy really seriously out here. I learned that the hard way.

**Gawain of Orkeny** · 07-21-2005, 06:42

If Long Island were made a state, I dunno, you'd have Billy Joel made a Senator or something. Frightening. People take their Billy really seriously out here. I learned that the hard way.

You do know that this was once proposed and we would have been one of the larger states as far as population goes.

**bmolsson** · 07-21-2005, 12:02

Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny

Do you want to take all those poor people as citizens? Can you imagine how much it would cost us in welfare and the like ?

Imagine the labor that could be used for the miltary. Invading Iraq, Iran and Syria at the SAME time......

**BDC** · 07-21-2005, 12:16

Sending people back, then bringing them here again sounds like a logistical nightmare, expensive, and like no one is actually going to go along with it.

"Hey, do you want to pay to go home, then come back here again, and still get none of the benefits of being a citizen, or carry on as you are at the moment?"

**Gawain of Orkeny** · 07-21-2005, 13:36

Sending people back, then bringing them here again sounds like a logistical nightmare, expensive, and like no one is actually going to go along with it.

"Hey, do you want to pay to go home, then come back here again, and still get none of the benefits of being a citizen, or carry on as you are at the moment?"

Its all covered in the bill. We arent paying for them to return to Mexico and if they dont go back and we catch them they will be deported and not allowed to return. The bill also contains measures that would harshly punish people who employ these workers.

**scooter_the_shooter** · 07-21-2005, 16:50

edit wrong link

**Ronin** · 07-21-2005, 17:21

Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny

Its all covered in the bill. We arent paying for them to return to Mexico and if they dont go back and we catch them they will be deported and not allowed to return. The bill also contains measures that would harshly punish people who employ these workers.

you would not allow then to return?

did you allow most of them to enter the first time?...i don´t think they´re going to ask permission to come back in.

Asks illegal immigrants to come forward, return to home country and apply for guest worker or permanent legal status from there.

the bill goes to hell right here...they´re expecting these people to come forward voluntarily?.....when that happens send me a popsicle from hell....i´d like to know what flavours they have down there.

**Kaiser of Arabia** · 07-22-2005, 13:56

Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny

Do you want to take all those poor people as citizens? Can you imagine how much it would cost us in welfare and the like ?

That was the funniest thing I've seen all day. kudos!

the bill goes to hell right here...they´re expecting these people to come forward voluntarily?.....when that happens send me a popsicle from hell....i´d like to know what flavours they have down there.

Blueberry, Strawberry, Lemon, Lime, and Manflesh.

**rasoforos** · 07-22-2005, 14:20

How about getting some developed countries and some multinationals to 1) invest in less developed countries ( easy ) 2) And demand proper work conditions and labour law as well as proper wages ( the very tough one since it requires moral governments and multinationals ). This way those people will not have to cross the borders.

Lets have some sympathy guys. All they want is a better life and many times not even for them...many do the jobs we wouldnt even consider doing just to be able to give their kids a good life in the future. We or our ancestors have always been doing that thing, ever since the first humans left Africa...

Having said all that this thread kinda scares me since I am a foreigner living and working ( from September ) somewhere outside of my native country. Being a legal immigrant sure feels nice