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    Default Number of turns

    Only for measuring opinions

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    12 would be cool but how would you implement the change of wheather
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    3 would be cool, representing the campaigning season, but that would leave an etra season out for purposes of construction and recruitment. Still, I guess that's nothing a little tweaking can't fix. 3 it is.

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    Four would be best I think, but if we have to cut it down three is the next best thing.

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    Is there anyway to make the seasons play more of a role than they do in the orginal R:TW, like making some waters unfareable during winter but making landtravelling speedier in frozen regions.

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    Default Re: Number of turns

    1 is best. It is already to easy to conquer the world in like 50 years, making more times a year just increase this inaccuracy.

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    I don't think 1 is an option, but it is a problem that you can't be laidback and just click on the next turn thing. When I'm playing, I always win the game before getting any kind of advanced units, especially when romans. Of course armenians was a little harder, but then again this could take an enourmous amount of hours, and ended up having 6-7 battles on all sides each turn. This is the thing we should keep from happening each turn - one ai faction would just capture the whole map, and the player is forced to expand from turn one, making it unrealistic. That was why I loved RTR Roma mod, it was just so hard for anyone to keep a rebel province. I hate being forced to expand, and if you don't, you'll be totally outnumbered and underpowered when the ai comes. Am I just a bad RTW player, or are anyone else thinking this would be dull?

    I just don't trust the RTW engine to give good gameplay on a high number of turns each year. We should have something to weighten up between realistic progress and the game progress.

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    Well why not just make rebbellions a common feature, and create rebel buffer states that are increadibly hard to conquer and keep without assimilating them culturaly and having a large garrison.

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    I like the assimilation abstracted as buildings thing. Also, there might be features in BI letting us do something nifty here

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    Default Re: Number of turns

    2, but 4 would be nice to include in an addon IMO
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    Two is definatley not enough, four would be good.

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    Hy everyone,

    Maybe the maximum distance covered by a standard unit could answer the question. I mean, a group of 2000 foot soldiers can march-move-travel-etc 900 km in about 3 months (lets say 10 km a day on a standard terrain). As we already know the distances between the cities, this calculation becomes easy.


    So be it !

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    okay just some thoughts if four turns were implemented on realistic potencial expansion for factions:
    each province filled up with units holding the cities if realistic, hard to conquer. ai won't go berserk and one faction won't own half the world in 5 years. vikings for instance can now conquer normandy or single provinces, but won't be able to conquer a lot in no time.

    richer factions will of course be able to conquer, but it will take it's time. we would have to avoid that the player have to fight 10 battles a turn, as it will take ages to get some new technology and such - in fact I think, if we would implement more turns, the player should be able to just wait up to eight turns for instance, and not fall way back in factionscore.

    On the other hand, he could travel realistic distances and manouver a lot more than if only two turns. Of course it will take a lot of turns to take out another faction, as they have garrisons. shit I don't know...

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    To me, the numbers of turns doesn't really mather. If you have 6 turns in a year, you have to do all the same things for every turn that you do with the RTW system. The only advantage with more turns, is that we can specify more the relativeness between buildingtimes and unit movement.

    You will experience as many battles every turn as you do with the original system (AI allso get "6" turns per year) so you wold probably end up with faster expantion of your, and AI empires compared to buildingtime.

    I like the system of RTR mutch bether, were you get haltet by the lack of recruitable unit's in newly conquered provinces, so that you have to have the garison fixed before you can move on. And if you expand to fast, replacing your army will be a pain. This allso applies to the AI factions, so you won't get any überfactions around.

    BUT wold i really like to see mutch larger traveldistances compared to RTW. Your army's should be able to cross europe in a year if they don't stumble across any other armys. This way, ambushes will probably occour mutch more often, and you as a player must play mutch more defencively.


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    I don´t think it is THAT big problem. Here´s my sugestion:

    PROBLEM
    1)Goal1: To cover realistic distances
    2)Goal2: Stop fighting several battleas a turn
    3)Hindrance: Prevent from expanding too fast

    SOLUTION:
    1)How to cover realistic distances: make it 4 turns a year
    2)See FINAL RESULT
    3)How to prevent from overexpanding...

    ... ready ... ?

    By increasing the units construction time it would make the game very boring and it would increase the already boring massive Logistics micromanaging (how to make all constructed units merge on a meeting point obeying the optimal time/distance basis=raising a big army). So, in order to avoid time waiting turns, I suggest a tremendous increase on the units construction costs. In order to expand continuously one needs to have powefull units, but those units will be so expensive that you´ll need to wait until you have the money. And, this kind of waiting is different from the waiting when you have long construction times because if you don´t want to wait untill you can purchase powerfull units you can raise a big army of cheap units. Then, with the new cheap army you can cover all the realistic distances but you know it will be hard to expand due to the lack of a good backbone on your army.

    And more, lets say you will remain a lot of turns disenvolving your economy in order to raise a massive army of good units and then you will begin raiding the world (ohh! A familiar Viking thought I gess!). Then I presume:

    1) City wall defences shold be more effective than RTW
    2)Let the upkeep costs low. It is soo cool to have a big army !

    FINAL RESULT

    It seems that, by the above measures, every faction will have a main army, instead of the spread packages of RTW. And few strong armies are good, specialy because it allows to build Viking raiding armies. Also, increasing the number of factions will prevent each faction from getting rich quickly. With only a few strong armies, there will be less battles a turn and the main battles will have longer lasting results. As well as in real life!

    Wow ! Did I say that ?!

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    Default Re: Number of turns

    I think it would rather be high upkeep but low reqruitment costs....

    Would be awesome to have lots of these minor factions

    oh i would have to make more faction icons

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