New unit at the com: Roman Comitatenes !!

[The Blind King of Bohemia]

I can't really see whats wrong with the unit to be honest

[King of Atlantis]

it just doesnt look that good in my opinion. I guess im just to used to the mods using more detail....

[Viking]

Why bring up EB? Cause it is comparable. They did the same time period, but there units look so much nicer.

Erm, they are NOT comparable. You can compare EB with RTW but not with BI as the time has moved several hundred years forward. Moreover you haven`t seen EB`s roman units yet so you`re completely off-track. And IMHO the roman units generally looks boring. That said mod units look better, but not all of them.

If you want cool units, wait for the Sassanids or Franks.

[The Stranger]

yeugh, that skins stinks. if they were elite, why do they wear low quality equipment.

[player1]

Gone are the days when Rome was great...



P.S.
Really, a heavy peltast reskin.

[antisocialmunky]

The worse the skin, the more joy it will be to see Huscarles hack through them.

[player1]

it would still be a heavy peltast...

hehe...

[Steppe Merc]

I wish they would get rid of faction colors...

[Orda Khan]

yeugh, that skins stinks. if they were elite, why do they wear low quality equipment.

What is so awful about it? As for equipment, this is the equipment that the Roman army was using at this particular time. In fact quite Germanic, but there again so were many of Rome's generals

........Orda

[BobTheTerrible]

it just doesnt look that good in my opinion. I guess im just to used to the mods using more detail....

Is everything CA does now evil? CA still has the minimum system requirements to conform to, so they cannot model/texture to absolute perfection, as that could cause graphic slowdowns and force them to raise minimum requirements. Honestly I don't see what's so bad about it. Don't accuse me of being a fanboy for liking the unit please, I'm all for historical accuracy and such, but the level that some members here have taken it seems a little extreme, if I may say so.

[King of Atlantis]

What the hell guys.

No Ca isnt evil. I obviously like their games as i am a member here.
Im not complaining about accuarcy it looks very accurate.
The unit just didnt look that good to me and why cant i have an opinion. I didnt look at the unit hoping it would look bad. I was hoping it would be nice. I was pleased by the historicalness, but the looks just didnt suit me. The mods add a lot of detail but it usually makes the game go quicker on my computer.

Man, I have been attacked like five times now for thiniking the unit doesnt look good. That is my opinion. I wouldnt be suprised if members here liked it. That would be their opinion.

The people that are claiming that im being hard on CA are at the same time being hard on me for having an opinion.

Sorry, i didnt know im not supposed to have an opinion, is this better.

OMG, this new unit is AWESOME. PRAISE CA!!! Im not going to get any sleep now. Looking at this one new unit is so much cooler than looking at the 50 mods have made. THANK YOU CA!

I personally think my opinon adds more to the discusion, but i get it now. People in the Colleseum dont want to hear opinions only praise.

[Orda Khan]

Calm down, calm down.
Ok you don't like the unit, yet at the same time you agree it looks quite historically accurate.......

Can you understand why some people are confused?

......Orda

[Mongoose]

We really shouldn't be ranting. It might not be great, but it's alot better then the first unit I see this as a HUGE improvement.

[lars573]

What the hell guys.

No Ca isnt evil. I obviously like their games as i am a member here.
Im not complaining about accuarcy it looks very accurate.
The unit just didnt look that good to me and why cant i have an opinion. I didnt look at the unit hoping it would look bad. I was hoping it would be nice. I was pleased by the historicalness, but the looks just didnt suit me. The mods add a lot of detail but it usually makes the game go quicker on my computer.

Man, I have been attacked like five times now for thiniking the unit doesnt look good. That is my opinion. I wouldnt be suprised if members here liked it. That would be their opinion.

The people that are claiming that im being hard on CA are at the same time being hard on me for having an opinion.

Sorry, i didnt know im not supposed to have an opinion, is this better.

OMG, this new unit is AWESOME. PRAISE CA!!! Im not going to get any sleep now. Looking at this one new unit is so much cooler than looking at the 50 mods have made. THANK YOU CA!

I personally think my opinon adds more to the discusion, but i get it now. People in the Colleseum dont want to hear opinions only praise.

The problem people have is your constant comparison of BI to EB. I know I'm tired of it. Now leaving aside that EB is everything I don't want in a mod, and I was never impressed with EB skins. Your constant comparisons would be enough to try the patience of anyone. To sum up your a broken record on the BI vs EB. People are tired of hearing and they let you have it in this thread.

[SMZ]

^pretty much it, although I kept quiet...

personally EB looks interesting to me but I'm sure I'm going to love BI also... EB couldn't exist if CA hadn't made R:TW... and I think with the release of BI many more possibilities will open up for interested modders. The vanilla game in itself will be enjoyable to me, but the ability of the modders just adds to that - and I see a number of persons, maybe not yourself, but a number who seem to never have anything good to say about CA...

and no matter what part of life, a person who constantly complains is a nuisance to be around... with the first unit there was a huge outcry about fantasy units... with the second now ppl are complaining that it doesn't look pretty enough? It's just like... give me a break - if I was CA I would be wondering at the value of giving previews... as many here know - this board does not represent a majority of the CA audience, just it's most discerning portions...

[King of Atlantis]

The problem people have is your constant comparison of BI to EB.

? I compared it to EB here only after i was already attacked for not liking the unit.

I know I'm tired of it. Now leaving aside that EB is everything I don't want in a mod, and I was never impressed with EB skins. Your constant comparisons would be enough to try the patience of anyone. To sum up your a broken record on the BI vs EB. People are tired of hearing and they let you have it in this thread.

I'm not the only one who thinks most mods look better than BI.

and no matter what part of life, a person who constantly complains is a nuisance to be around...

I actually rarely complain. Not once will you ever see me complain in the MTW forum.

Things i have complained about-

historical accuaracy- nobody can argue that CA lakes in this department
this unit doesnt look good.-Im not the only one who thinks this.

with the first unit there was a huge outcry about fantasy units... with the second now ppl are complaining that it doesn't look pretty enough?

ofcourse there was an outcry on the first one, if you disagree with people not liking how that unit was put in then post your reasons there.

I have lost a lot of respect for what i once thought was a perfect community. You guys are sounding much more than a broken record than me.
"GO CA. YOU GUYS ROCK. RTW IS PERFECT.

I like the total war franchise and i played everyone of there games. As a fan it is my right and responsiblity to complain.

[King of Atlantis]

BTW, why did this turn into a hate thread. I gave my honest opinion of the unit and i would like to hear other peoples. That is the purpose of the thread i thought.

oh well guys, just flame away, you should be proud.

[lars573]

But in both threads on the BI units, yours was the loudest and most constant voice of seeming disapproval on the look of the units.

I'm not the only one who thinks most mods look better than BI.

Actually most mod skins look sub professional. You put up with the poor looks because you like what the mod is doing.

[Mongoose]

poor looks in EB? ignorance is bliss i guess....

[Emit_Flesti]

BTW, why did this turn into a hate thread. I gave my honest opinion of the unit and i would like to hear other peoples. That is the purpose of the thread i thought.

oh well guys, just flame away, you should be proud.

I have to agree with King of Atlantis when he says that he does not like it. It LOOKS like a run-over light auxilia, or something. However, I would expect that by the time of the the barbarian invasions the west roman army would have lower quality non-golden imperial age standard equipment.
Remember that one of the reasons why the legions kept marching on Rome and deposing emperors favoring their commander was that they did not get enough money and support. By the time of the late empire, Rome would not be economically able to support all those shiny lorica segmentata clad legionnaires (they kept emmiting more money, which only made things worse because of inflation). So, all you get for an elite unit is this half-caste lame excuse for a leggionaire.
Hope that brought a little sobriety to this quickly escalating thread ;)

[Orda Khan]

What is so awful about it? As for equipment, this is the equipment that the Roman army was using at this particular time. In fact quite Germanic, but there again so were many of Rome's generals

........Orda

^ My opinion.
I can't wait to see what people think of the Eastern Empire units.

.......Orda

[King of Atlantis]

Orda, I was happy to see your opinion. You showd your opinion with out attacking my opinion. That is how things are supposed to work and im glad everyone hasnt resorted to flamming.

But in both threads on [IMG]the BI units, yours was the loudest and most constant voice of seeming disapproval on the look of the units.

In the priest i was not really complaing about its looks, but its how it was implemented in the game. Though i do still wonder why they dont have solid black cloaks. And im not really angry about that i just wanted to know if there was a reason for it.

In this thread i have actually been attacked many times for not liking the look, which is possibly just that they didnt look good in real life, so obviously im going to write back.

Actually most mod skins look sub professional. You put up with the poor looks because you like what the mod is doing.

are you serious look at this pic from R E S G E S T A E .

[antisocialmunky]

Wow, now if you put those guys in Germania and turned up the blue on your monitor. You could reinact the begining of Gladiator.

It's even in widescreen!

From my experience, the only mods that have routine unprofessional graphics are either ones dealing with VOXELs(Command and Conquer) or 2d animation.

[jacked]

Yeah the calvary look alright.

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

Yeah the calvary look alright.

Understatement, at least of the month.

And player1, one of my favorite units is the heavy peltasts! Seriously.

[SMZ]

King of Atlantis I hope you did not perceive me to be flaming you.

and I see a number of persons, maybe not yourself, but a number who seem to never have anything good to say about CA...

The part of my post which you neglected to acknowledge shows that I was not personally attacking you, which is what flaming is. Furthermore, I am harldy running around proclaiming that CA are gods made flesh. I just recognized what the general vibe of a large portion of this board seems to be to me, and why this attitude seems misguided to me.

Nonetheless, back to the Comitatenes, I thought their being depicted somewhat dully was a nice touch. Whether this was purposeful or not I suppose is open to argument, but given the looks of the units from R:TW and the graphic quality of the previous preview I think it was. It seems to me they're just representing the general run-down quality of the legions by this time.

And that calvary shot there is beautiful. *goes to look at R E S G E S T A E*

[Steppe Merc]

People have every right to complain about bad units. When a company insults it's main fan base, it has to expect negative response.

[lars573]

are you serious look at this pic from R E S G E S T A E .

That sums up my feelings about that skin.

[antisocialmunky]

The ironic thing aobut lar's post is that thumbs down actually meant drop your weapon and let the other guy live in the Colloseum. Thumb point at chest ment kill the other guy.

In simple: When you a gladiator thumbs down = good, thumbs up/sideways = bad.

*Kerspam!*

[Afro Thunder]

I would just really like it if they got rid of the whole "each faction has to follow a certain color pattern" thing. I mean, the only differences between Armenian and Parthian Eastern Infantry in Vanilla RTW is that armenians have blue/green, and parthians have pink and bright purple! Come on! They can do better than that!