New unit at the com: Roman Comitatenes !!

[TB666]

*If you look this unit actually has a saddle where Ca just provides a faction colored cloth.

And to my knowledge saddles didn't exist at this time so this is a fantasy unit.

[Marcellus]

And to my knowledge saddles didn't exist at this time so this is a fantasy unit.

They had saddles at this time. They didn't have stirrups, perhaps that's what you're thinking of.

[King of Atlantis]

They had saddles at this time. They didn't have stirrups, perhaps that's what you're thinking of.

exactly.

[TB666]

They had saddles at this time. They didn't have stirrups, perhaps that's what you're thinking of.

No, according to what I know the first saddle didn't exist until 365(+-5 years) AD in Sarmatia.

[Marcellus]

No, according to what I know the first saddle didn't exist until 365(+-5 years) AD in Sarmatia.

Interesting. having searched around the internet for a while, I found several sites saying that the Sarmatians invented the saddle in AD365. However, I also found sites that showed that the Romans had saddles for their cavalry. It seems that the Sarmatians invented the saddle we know today, but that the Romans did have saddles before this. They just weren't as advanced as the saddles we have now. They had four 'horns' on them to stop the rider falling off:

[TB666]

Source please ??
Gotta remember that one of the reason that historians bash "the gladiator" is because they are using saddles.

[Marcellus]

Source please ??
Gotta remember that one of the reason that historians bash "the gladiator" is because they are using saddles.

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Stage/3591/army.html

Roman cavalry of the early and middle Empire was organized in alae, units of 500 to 1,000 men divided into squadrons, or turmae, of 30 or 40 horsemen under the command of decurions. We know that the Romans used a kind of saddle, with four saddle horns for anchoring baggage, but they had no knowledge of stirrups, although they did use spurs

http://www.caerleon.net/history/army/page7.html#saddle

scroll down to the 'cavalry' bit

http://www.scran.ac.uk/packs/exhibit...s/56/Auxil.htm

Archaeological discoveries, however, have revealed that the Roman saddle was designed with projecting horns to keep the rider firmly in place, rather like the cowboy saddle of more recent times.

http://www.legiiavg.org.uk/articles/..._wholedoc.html

The all-important saddle had no stirrups. These were replaced by the use of 4 horns on the saddle itself, which offered a great sense of security, as the horseman could not fall out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavalry

The decline of the Roman infrastructure made it successively more difficult to field large infantry forces, and during the second and third centuries cavalry began to take a more dominant role on the battlefield, also in part made possible by the appearance of new, larger breeds of horses. The replacement of the insubstantial Roman saddle by variants on the Scythian model, with pommel and cantle, was significant too.

p.s. it's 'Gladiator', not 'the Gladiator'. Maybe they were using the wrong kind of saddle?

[TB666]

I stand corrected then
However the cavalry in the pic is still fantasy tho since it is the wrong saddle