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    Default Sv: New unit at the com: Roman Comitatenes !!

    Source please ??
    Gotta remember that one of the reason that historians bash "the gladiator" is because they are using saddles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TB666
    Source please ??
    Gotta remember that one of the reason that historians bash "the gladiator" is because they are using saddles.
    http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Stage/3591/army.html

    Roman cavalry of the early and middle Empire was organized in alae, units of 500 to 1,000 men divided into squadrons, or turmae, of 30 or 40 horsemen under the command of decurions. We know that the Romans used a kind of saddle, with four saddle horns for anchoring baggage, but they had no knowledge of stirrups, although they did use spurs
    http://www.caerleon.net/history/army/page7.html#saddle

    scroll down to the 'cavalry' bit

    http://www.scran.ac.uk/packs/exhibit...s/56/Auxil.htm

    Archaeological discoveries, however, have revealed that the Roman saddle was designed with projecting horns to keep the rider firmly in place, rather like the cowboy saddle of more recent times.
    http://www.legiiavg.org.uk/articles/..._wholedoc.html

    The all-important saddle had no stirrups. These were replaced by the use of 4 horns on the saddle itself, which offered a great sense of security, as the horseman could not fall out.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavalry

    The decline of the Roman infrastructure made it successively more difficult to field large infantry forces, and during the second and third centuries cavalry began to take a more dominant role on the battlefield, also in part made possible by the appearance of new, larger breeds of horses. The replacement of the insubstantial Roman saddle by variants on the Scythian model, with pommel and cantle, was significant too.
    p.s. it's 'Gladiator', not 'the Gladiator'. Maybe they were using the wrong kind of saddle?
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    Default Sv: New unit at the com: Roman Comitatenes !!

    I stand corrected then
    However the cavalry in the pic is still fantasy tho since it is the wrong saddle

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    Default Re: New unit at the com: Roman Comitatenes !!

    Um, no. That unit is NOT fantasy in anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mongoose
    Um, no. That unit is NOT fantasy in anyway.
    According to your and many others mentality it is.
    They didn't use that saddle during this period of RTW so it is obviously a fantasy unit.

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    Default Re: New unit at the com: Roman Comitatenes !!

    Yes, they did...


    Prove that they didn't use the saddle

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    Default Sv: New unit at the com: Roman Comitatenes !!

    See the previous post.

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