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    Default Re: a part of me died today, damn BI

    This is not the Colosseum. Watch your pro-CA vs anti-CA debates.

    As to priests fighting... I think it's not needed to elaborate on that, huh?



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    If you don't like the games by CA, just don't buy them, don't play them and shut up.


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    Are there are only two units in that preview? Cuz I cant see anything else

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    Ridiculous units or no, I'm not writing off BI. Despite units like screeching women on the battlefield of RTW the underlying strategy game has provided me with more fun since it's release than any other game. Lack of historical accuracy doesn't ruin a game (like it didn't ruin RTW for me), and for those who think it does, well, at least there are mods like EB to look forward to then.

    Oh, and fighting priest are bloody ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prof
    If you don't like the games by CA, just don't buy them, don't play them and shut up.

    obviously people here like games from CA, though people doing the mods probably though MTW/STW was better. That is the same feeling from most vets. I don't see why we whould shut up. Yes we like totalwar games, but i didnt know we lost our right to an opninion.

    You like fantasy units fine, obviously alot of people here dont. Seing as most of the people who are complaining are probably the same people that have played all the games(at least more than rtw) and have always been there hard-core fanbase. When a game starts changing away from its hardcore fans the fans get mad. What do you expect. Im sure CA expected the reaction, but they were just trying to make RTW mainstream.

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    well, when i bought rtw i was a complete ca-ignoramus. i liked/loved the game. had a great time for 3 weeks, started reading about teh period, started rtr. and suddenly rtw flaw became apparent. just as CA's behavior towards history. but still, the only reason why I would buy BI is if EB is getting it. until EB-1.0 i'll play other games/ check otu rtr 6.0 ( i know i'm having a laugh over them, but not about their modding skills)

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    Quote Originally Posted by King of Atlantis
    obviously people here like games from CA, though people doing the mods probably though MTW/STW was better. That is the same feeling from most vets. I don't see why we whould shut up. Yes we like totalwar games, but i didnt know we lost our right to an opninion.

    You like fantasy units fine, obviously alot of people here dont. Seing as most of the people who are complaining are probably the same people that have played all the games(at least more than rtw) and have always been there hard-core fanbase. When a game starts changing away from its hardcore fans the fans get mad. What do you expect. Im sure CA expected the reaction, but they were just trying to make RTW mainstream.
    I don't like fantasy units, but i don't complain all the time. I wait until someone makes good/historic units, skins or a mod that is historical accurate. If you don't like the game, why don't you just tell CA, why don't you just make/wait for Mods? It's really pesky that every 2nd post is about how CA sucks...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Prof
    I don't like fantasy units, but i don't complain all the time. I wait until someone makes good/historic units, skins or a mod that is historical accurate. If you don't like the game, why don't you just tell CA, why don't you just make/wait for Mods? It's really pesky that every 2nd post is about how CA sucks...
    I really dont think anybody said CA sucks, i know i didnt.

    Complain ever two post? You have spent to much time in the colliseum. In the mainhall and sword dojo im pretty sure you will find little to no complaints about CA.

    Of my over 1,000 post probably less than 10 were complaints about CA and maybe 50 trying to explain my postion like this, but id say thats a pretty fair ratio.


    If you don't like the game, why don't you just tell CA, why don't you just make/wait for Mods?
    I dont/others here dont just tell Ca. I am eagerly waiting RTR and EB. And I also am making a mod, though it certainly isnt realism as I also love Fantasy. Just not when it's posed as realistic.

    Obviously in a thread called a part of me died today, damn BI, there is going to be a lot of complaints.

    So all in all we are doing the same thing. Waiting for a realism mod, though the difference is us complainers are giving our opinion and you are attacking an opinion. Do you realize that the point of a message board is to post your opinions. I guessing you dont realize that, but maybe one day...

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    welcome to a forum. the sewer of opinions

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    Irrelevant i just post here cause its the only place not dead

    Why so much quiet in EB forum? i mean hello any preview? at least an announcement?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prof
    If you don't like the games by CA, just don't buy them, don't play them and shut up.

    Yeah! you have no right to your opinion if you disagree with me!


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    I was wondering why did they include the Priests and Imams to Christian and Muslim armies in MTW? Why did they wait so longer to add priests to RTW? Strange isn't it?

    I hate that fantasy unhistoric units. It's like fy in our soups. They're ruining the historic ambience of any TW game. Moaning German chicks, groaning druids. What shall make next time i'm really dying while i'm waiting any awesome surprises.

    Maybe a Sassanid harem girl band?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Legioner
    I was wondering why did they include the Priests and Imams to Christian and Muslim armies in MTW? Why did they wait so longer to add priests to RTW? Strange isn't it?

    I hate that fantasy unhistoric units. It's like fy in our soups. They're ruining the historic ambience of any TW game. Moaning German chicks, groaning druids. What shall make next time i'm really dying while i'm waiting any awesome surprises.

    Maybe a Sassanid harem girl band?

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    but I don't think that will be included since it wouldn't be ahistorical enough perhaps some nice smeg legions or some bartix hoplitix

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    yeah man. So true. It's all about the overall -experience-, and one unit is going to spoil that experience, like it or not. Besides, fighting with clubs? look at that unit. It's nott holding any old club, it's a CRUCIFIX for god's sake. It's an act of sacrilege! You most holy icon is being used as an instrument of organised murder!

    For that one unit alone, it's enough reason not to buy BI, because it's already not historical enough for us EB-fans, whose idols (Khelvan and gang) have shown us how historical it can be.

    And if you think priests are not good enough a reason, here's another: Hundredmen Hall.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pezhetairoi
    And if you think priests are not good enough a reason, here's another: Hundredmen Hall.

    What is the hundredman hall? Did I miss something?

    And why are priests in the armies?

    And what are Sarmatians doing in the 300s AD as an organised kingdom?

    And why this and why that...

    I feel like Hunter Thompson in Las Vegas: confused, scared, and out of his element. CA has lost too much historical authenticity- they can make a very good game, but they are going over the top with these wierd, Age Of Empires style abstractions.

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    Why is it such a big deal if the priest isn't historically accurate? The second unit looked alright, and I don't think all the units are going to be strange holy people like the Druids in standard RTW. Druids didn't ruin RTW, did they? If you don't like the Priests in your armies, it does'nt take great modding skills to remove them.
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    Good point RTW King, it's as simple as that. I've removed all flaming oinkies, the nagg..whoops, "screeching" women, druids and "egyptian" chariots from vanilla rtw and now Ihaven't got much to complain about (unit wise).
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    If you don't like the games by CA, just don't buy them, don't play them and shut up.
    Whoever typed the above comment is an idiot and needs to ask himself why he attends forums. If people want to talk about the stupidity of CA then they can.
    Last edited by Chester; 07-31-2005 at 18:03.

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    Hey, I've found proof in Google about the priest unit!:



    NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition! Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.... Our *three* weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope.... Our *four*...no... *Amongst* our weapons.... Amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise.... I'll come in again.
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    Default Re: a part of me died today, damn BI

    Also i have a great respect for the immense work which CA`s teams have to do for the BI, i fear there will be more priests then druids and scalds etc in the northern Lands of the game and that means, again unhistorical setup!
    Most of north europe was not ( or only some single tribes leader)realy cristianised before the year 1000 ad. And the first followers of rome`s new religion ended with they heads put on stakes, when visiting ireland sweden and norway.
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    If they continue to do unhistoric applications they will ruin the TW series with their own hands. I shall not pay a penny to BI if CA make a new RTW imitation. They don't know what they do exactly. They ruined the epic battles, gameplay, historic basement and totaly the games itself. I play only the mods such as EB project. How can't they see their own created diehard fan's critics. RTW is a total and decisive a lost case to the teeth.


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    Default Re: a part of me died today, damn BI

    Quote Originally Posted by Little Legioner
    I was wondering why did they include the Priests and Imams to Christian and Muslim armies in MTW? Why did they wait so longer to add priests to RTW? Strange isn't it?
    cause mtw was more or less accurate. Though if they were ever going to add priest to the battle front it should have been done in VI. The vikings often attacked monasteries forcing the monks to fight back, but even that doesnt really deserve a unit.

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