relative effectiveness of missiles

[CBR]

I think it starts to become noticable after valor 4 yes. I also think its a question of what unit (what accuracy the weapon has) as it seems arqs, that has low accuracy, does seem better with just a few valor on it. But not sure though.

I play mostly MP and valor can max be 4 there and in general its not worth getting valor to get better missile power.


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[LoboSoulman]

I like to be on a hilltop with attacking enemy units walking up slowly while i pepper them with arbs.
But sometimes when u get attacked again and again u get sick of the slaughter :)

[Ludens]

I think it starts to become noticable after valor 4 yes. I also think its a question of what unit (what accuracy the weapon has) as it seems arqs, that has low accuracy, does seem better with just a few valor on it. But not sure though.

I play mostly MP and valor can max be 4 there and in general its not worth getting valor to get better missile power.

I remember that in S:TW there was a set increase in accuracy for every honour point the unit gained. The increase was equal for all units so samurai archers, which already had good accuracy, didn't benefit from it much, while arqubusiers and musketeers, with low accuracy, clearly performed better at higher honour. Does it work the same way in M:TW?

[CBR]

I cant remember any specific tests done for arqs in MTW but from battles I sometimes have seen very effective salvos from valor 3-4 arqs so yes I think they get more out of valor because of the very low accuracy they start with.


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[CBR]

I ran a test with Yuuki last night and it showed you only gain a bit by having valor 4 on arqs so it appears that low accuracy weapons is the same as high accuracy weapons. Its not something you should focus on in the hopes of gaining some big advantage.


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[crpcarrot]

i think the valour affect is more apparent in catapults dont know if the same valour effects are present in both types of units. i havent done any tests (just lazy i guess :D) but in the the battles i've played in the lat few days valour 4 does seem to make a difference maybe a single volley has not got much change but overall by the time they have finished they seem to kill more quicker.

by the way this is all SP never played MP as i never got the hang of hamespy

[antisocialmunky]

You can always increase the attack of those handgunners since they are hybrid swordsman.

[Puzz3D]

Longjohn's comments about gun use from Gamespot's Shogun Strategy Guide:

"Which formation should you employ? The gunpowder units are very inaccurate at long range, thus can't inflict much damage without their ranged weapons striking consistently. In medium-range encounters, it's useful to use a three-rank deep formation to fire more often. As you near close range, however, it's more important to hold for an accurate, massive blast.

Employing close-ranged, mass gunpowder attacks should prove highly effective (in formations of one or two ranks). The gunpowder units are relatively inexpensive, so it's easy to employ them en masse. Close-range blasts can kill several enemies in a single volley, potentially causing a cascading effect, lowering enemy morale."


About artillery from the Brady's Official MTW Strategy Guide:

"Artillery becomes increasingly accurate the more shots you take at the same target, as the crew ranges in on it. If the artillery has to turn, your accuracy is lost and the crew will start ranging in again. Of course, there's no guarantee that a crew's first shot will be on target, or in the case of a rookie crew firing at long range, anywhere near it."

"You can't influence a crew's accuracy except by shooting at nearer targets. But, if a crew scores kills on the enemy, its valor rating increases and its ability to range in improves. High valor artillery crews can put their first shot within a couple of meters of the target."

Note: There is no mention in the MTW Guide that increasing valor improves accuracy for archers, xbows or guns.

[Ludens]

I ran a test with Yuuki last night and it showed you only gain a bit by having valor 4 on arqs so it appears that low accuracy weapons is the same as high accuracy weapons. Its not something you should focus on in the hopes of gaining some big advantage.

Thanks, that is what I wanted to know. So valour for missile troops is relatively unimportant, unless you plan to use them in melee.