EU army

**Al Khalifah** · 07-26-2005, 22:59

The only problem is the Eurocorps can't do very much offensively

That is pretty much the only purpose of a combined European armed forces. The suggestion that a foreign power would initiate a conventional arms assault on an EU member state is somewhat farcical. There just isn't a nation in proximity that could execute such an assault and from a logistical perspective, there isn't a nation in the world that could conquer a united Europe.

**Boohugh** · 07-26-2005, 23:16

Originally Posted by Al Khalifah

That is pretty much the only purpose of a combined European armed forces. The suggestion that a foreign power would initiate a conventional arms assault on an EU member state is somewhat farcical. There just isn't a nation in proximity that could execute such an assault and from a logistical perspective, there isn't a nation in the world that could conquer a united Europe.

Yes, it is a farcical idea that someone would attack Europe, but the reconstruction work carried out in Kosovo shows that there are other roles for the military other than offensive and defensive operations.

The Europcorps is good for this kind of reconstruction work, but i wouldn't want its role to extend to offensive operations for the reasons stated in my first post (that of common foreign policy, etc).

**PanzerJaeger** · 07-26-2005, 23:26

Im against the EU so of course im against the idea of an EU army... not to mention it would cause more problems than solutions.

**Kagemusha** · 07-27-2005, 00:40

Originally Posted by PanzerJager

Im against the EU so of course im against the idea of an EU army... not to mention it would cause more problems than solutions.

Good old Panzer.Explain why it would create more problems?

**PanzerJaeger** · 07-27-2005, 01:22

I think others have already spelled that out but off the top of my head there would be conflict with training, language, equipment, manpower, money, command, and a host of other issues.

As someone else stated, the EU does not speak with one voice even - What would that EU army do in the case of Iraq where Britain and Italy went in but France and Germany did not?

Europe is not as united as you think...

**Kagemusha** · 07-27-2005, 01:28

If you read my posts carefully,You can see i adressed that thing earlier EU army wouldnt mean that parts of EU couldnt make independent decisions.If Italy and Britain would like to be in Iraq,other EU countries couldnt say nothing about it.

**bmolsson** · 07-27-2005, 03:03

Originally Posted by PanzerJager

As someone else stated, the EU does not speak with one voice even - What would that EU army do in the case of Iraq where Britain and Italy went in but France and Germany did not?

I guess it would have been rather lonely for the GI Joes .....

**PanzerJaeger** · 07-27-2005, 05:42

If you read my posts carefully,You can see i adressed that thing earlier EU army wouldnt mean that parts of EU couldnt make independent decisions.If Italy and Britain would like to be in Iraq,other EU countries couldnt say nothing about it.

You dont see any problem in having different parts of the army following differnet foreign policies?

Whats the point in making a EU army if the member states have autonomy over their armies anyway?