Quote Originally Posted by kagemusha
Thanks Don. About your question:We really dont have a deacent European UNION,but we have Europe.I first started this poll to see what you guys are thinking about this idea.
A good tread until a few Europeans took the opporunity to take cheap shots at the United States

Infact EU has had an central military comitea for few years now.
Yep and they still use NATO for their primary command and control.- at least the last time I checked into it did - but it might have changed in the last 2 years.

I think many American patrons have somekind of superiority complex over Europe,and lots of European members have an minority complex
No problem with Europe and its desires - until someone decides that its necessary to take a cheap shot - because of their own minority complex.

tooAbout WWI US did tip the balance,but no means you did win the war.
Did anyone in this tread say the United States won WW1. Try finding where I stated that.

It was those hundreds of thousands british and French troopers that died and exhausted the Germans.
And Canadian, Austrilian, Algerian, Africans, and other peoples. However it seems you want to only give two nations and its people credit for winning the war.

I would also like to state that after WWII people are looking at WWI like that the Germans were somekind of similar like Nazis in WWII.
What are you trying to say? And again where did anyone say that or even close to that in this thread?

They werent,the WWI was an escalation that needed to happen.
And you would be incorrect. WW1 escalated because of the politics of the time - not because it needed to happen.

About WWII many of our American patrons seems to believe that US won the war in Europe.How du you back that up?
Again who said that America won the war in Europe - what I have said that many peoples and many Nations won the war in Europe - not just Europeans.

If you count the number of divisions in the Eastern front and compare that to the western front,you must be kidding.Russians did the work and you take the glory
Again - you might want to check the makeup of the Russian Army - its not all European now is it. Again jumping to conclusion because you want to beleive someone said Americans won WW2. Again try actually reading the actual words that were written. It might just enlighten you.

several times in recent history - its been outside peoples that have rescued you poor Europeans from yourselves, the Canadians, the Austrialians, many of the nations of South America, India, Africa and other nations all outside of the European COntinent coming to save you warlike Europeans from yourselves.

Would you care to see the order of battle for the Allies - it includes more then France, England, and other European nations that fought for the Allies - about 60 other nations were also involved. It seems you Europeans fail to realize your own history.


.And my country was in the wrong side in that war.But we didnt have a choice.
Sure you did - you could of stayed neutral - after kicking the Russians ass - however you country didnt.

My grandfather fought together with the germans in the Northern Finland ,and he sayd that Germans sayd that if they would be moved to the western front in France or the Italy.It would be like picknic compered to the Eastern front meatgrinder.I say it once again it would benefit us both that EU could do even something about cricis management.
Again I would of been perfectly fine with the normal discussion about the benefits and the shortfalls of a European Union Army - however like I have already stated - several of you Europeans decided to take cheap shots at the United States - well two can play that game.

Any EU army is doomed to failure until the EU formalizes it constitution and its political makeup.