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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Khalifah
    Hey Red, recognise when someone is agreeing with you.
    Agreeing would mean you did not need qualifiers.

    Oh look, another pissing contest.
    Oh look another idiotic comment from the peanut gallery.

    Sorry Kage, looks like your threads ruined.
    Yep it got ruined almost from the start by cheap shots at America on a thread about the European Union forming an Army. To bad you didn't recongize that aspect of it now isn't it.
    Last edited by Redleg; 07-28-2005 at 15:29.
    O well, seems like 'some' people decide to ruin a perfectly valid threat. Nice going guys... doc bean

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redleg
    Yep it got ruined almost from the start by cheap shots at America on a thread about the European Union forming an Army.
    And lets not forget Kaiser of Arabia's brilliant post that could be seen as the start of the usual EU v US drivel.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CBR
    And lets not forget Kaiser of Arabia's brilliant post that could be seen as the start of the usual EU v US drivel.


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    And as usually everybody was happy to have an oportunity to make a fool of hisself

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    Quote Originally Posted by CBR
    And lets not forget Kaiser of Arabia's brilliant post that could be seen as the start of the usual EU v US drivel.


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    True but I long ago learned to ignore his posts. And most of the comments I just ignored also. However this one just had to be ridiculed to the point that I did.

    Every time Europe was threatened, Europeans achieved to surpass their internal fights and to protect the continent.

    I just found it interesting though that some from Europe would like to think that this is the truth - when history has shown over and over again that it so far from reality as Kaiser's initial statment in this thread.
    O well, seems like 'some' people decide to ruin a perfectly valid threat. Nice going guys... doc bean

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    Agreeing would mean you did not need qualifiers.
    I was merely explaining myself.
    Oh look another idiotic comment from the peanut gallery.
    I laughed out loud and that and I don't know why. What does it mean?
    Cowardice is to run from the fear;
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    Bravery is to be terrified as hell;
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Khalifah
    I was merely explaining myself.

    I laughed out loud and that and I don't know why. What does it mean?

    Another American saying - it basically means that

    peanut gallery
    n.
    1. The hindmost or uppermost section of seating in a theater balcony, where the seats are cheapest.
    2. A group of people whose opinions are considered unimportant: "Pressure is building ... to force ... Alan Greenspan to cut interest rates and pump up the money supply. [He] has politely ignored these catcalls from the peanut gallery" H. Erich Heinemann.
    O well, seems like 'some' people decide to ruin a perfectly valid threat. Nice going guys... doc bean

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    Ah you mean 'the gods.'

    Yeah I can see why the American term works better here.

    Anyway... back on topic....

    I still don't think we should have an EU army.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Khalifah
    Ah you mean 'the gods.'

    Yeah I can see why the American term works better here.

    Anyway... back on topic....

    I still don't think we should have an EU army.
    I think Europe is not ready for an EU army yet. Will in time the politicial structure of the European Union allow for the successful intergation of an European Union Army - time will tell.

    Like I said in my initial post - it would be an interesting development. Even if it fails - the lessons learned by the creation of such a force - can be valuable for allied intergation of forces - or the later formulation of such a force.

    Its been tried twice already in different forms - and NATO become stronger in its command and control capablities because of those attempts.
    O well, seems like 'some' people decide to ruin a perfectly valid threat. Nice going guys... doc bean

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    Oh look another idiotic comment from the peanut gallery.
    Struck a nerve did I. Do whatever you like but the backroom seems to be dissolving into meaningless arguments lately.

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    I think Europe is not ready for an EU army yet. Will in time the politicial structure of the European Union allow for the successful intergation of an European Union Army - time will tell.
    I agree entirely for all the reasons I outlined a while ago.

    What would be a good idea, that has been tossed around the ideas room for a while, is the creation of an Elite EU regiment/division drawing on all nationalities.
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    Please look at post 40

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ja'chyra
    Struck a nerve did I. Do whatever you like but the backroom seems to be dissolving into meaningless arguments lately.
    Didn't stike a nerve at all.

    However it seems you are adding to the problem in which you are protesting against.

    your just doing another case of the pot calling the kettle black it seems to me.

    adding fire to the meaningless arguements that is.

    O well, seems like 'some' people decide to ruin a perfectly valid threat. Nice going guys... doc bean

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    Please look at post 40
    The Eurocorps is only composed of soldiers from France, Germany, Belgium, Luxembourg and Spain. The Eurocorps is also more of a tool of NATO and those nations. It is not subordinate to the EU.

    I would like it to be much more than this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Khalifah
    The Eurocorps is only composed of soldiers from France, Germany, Belgium, Luxembourg and Spain. The Eurocorps is also more of a tool of NATO and those nations. It is not subordinate to the EU.

    I would like it to be much more than this.
    If I remember correctly this was what was developed after the NATO rapid deployment force concept was deemed a failure.
    O well, seems like 'some' people decide to ruin a perfectly valid threat. Nice going guys... doc bean

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