EU army

**Ja'chyra** · 07-28-2005, 15:52

Oh look another idiotic comment from the peanut gallery.

Struck a nerve did I. Do whatever you like but the backroom seems to be dissolving into meaningless arguments lately.

**Al Khalifah** · 07-28-2005, 15:56

I think Europe is not ready for an EU army yet. Will in time the politicial structure of the European Union allow for the successful intergation of an European Union Army - time will tell.

I agree entirely for all the reasons I outlined a while ago.

What would be a good idea, that has been tossed around the ideas room for a while, is the creation of an Elite EU regiment/division drawing on all nationalities.

**Franconicus** · 07-28-2005, 15:58

Please look at post 40

**Redleg** · 07-28-2005, 16:03

Originally Posted by Ja'chyra

Struck a nerve did I. Do whatever you like but the backroom seems to be dissolving into meaningless arguments lately.

Didn't stike a nerve at all.

However it seems you are adding to the problem in which you are protesting against.

your just doing another case of the pot calling the kettle black it seems to me.

adding fire to the meaningless arguements that is.

**Al Khalifah** · 07-28-2005, 16:07

Please look at post 40

The Eurocorps is only composed of soldiers from France, Germany, Belgium, Luxembourg and Spain. The Eurocorps is also more of a tool of NATO and those nations. It is not subordinate to the EU.

I would like it to be much more than this.

**Redleg** · 07-28-2005, 16:14

Originally Posted by Al Khalifah

The Eurocorps is only composed of soldiers from France, Germany, Belgium, Luxembourg and Spain. The Eurocorps is also more of a tool of NATO and those nations. It is not subordinate to the EU.

I would like it to be much more than this.

If I remember correctly this was what was developed after the NATO rapid deployment force concept was deemed a failure.

**Kagemusha** · 08-02-2005, 00:13

I just counted together roughly all EU militaries land and airforces.Pretty intresting result.

Land forces:

Active soldiers: 1 831 320
reserves: 3 213 742
Main battle tanks: 11236
other avf´s: 39422

Airforces:

Attack airplanes: 2993
Attack helicopters:1259

Nice pile of troops and equipment.As a source i used Finnish military web pages www.mil.fi.

**The Stranger** · 08-02-2005, 10:01

and that of amrica is

**Al Khalifah** · 08-02-2005, 10:07

Nice pile of troops and equipment.

Much more significant than this, consider the HMS Vanguard, Victorious, Vigilant and Vengeance. With each carrying 16 Trident II missiles, containing up to 12 warheads each, this is the true punch in Britain's arsenal.

**Boohugh** · 08-02-2005, 12:32

Don't forget the French have their own nuclear force as well (it may even be bigger than the UK's, but not 100% sure). These 2 nuclear forces are the sole reason nobody would invade Europe, not because of almost 2million active troops.

**Kagemusha** · 08-02-2005, 21:41

I agree with you guys Al khalifah and Lord Hugh.The reason why i gathered those figures is,that i believe we dont need this much.If we would work together. We could drop the amounts and increse quality.