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    Default Re: Massive Units? -- Need Help

    I did check that out, but I found nothing pertaining to the unit sizes.

    If you say that they are all expressed in the smallest unit sizes, then what are those?

    These are the only ones I know:

    Normal: 40 average size units.

    Large: 80 average size units.

    Huge: 120 Average size units.

    So what is the smallest one then, & which number is it on the export_descr_unit file names of the units?

    And, to make the unit larger, do I just add like 180 to their numbers, & with Huge unit settings, the 120 man units will now be 300?

    I seriously want some massive battles, particularly like the seige battle on the open part of the Rome Total War box cover, who wouldnt want to fight a battle like that, a true battle.

    *the Huge unit settings might be 140, I cant remember, havent played in a week, so either its 140 or 120, but I do know that there are some 240 man units, but I'm talking about normal 120 man units*

    -- EDIT --

    So here is the Spartan stat's, for example:

    type greek hoplite spartan
    dictionary greek_hoplite_spartan ; Spartan Hoplites
    category infantry
    class spearmen
    voice_type Medium_1
    soldier greek_hoplite_spartan_pylos, 40, 0, 1.3
    attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, can_sap, very_hardy
    formation 1, 1, 2, 2, 5, square, phalanx
    stat_health 2, 0
    stat_pri 16, 8, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, spear, 25 ,1
    stat_pri_attr spear
    stat_sec 16, 4, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, sword, 25 ,1
    stat_sec_attr no
    stat_pri_armour 3, 9, 5, leather
    stat_sec_armour 0, 1, flesh
    stat_heat 2
    stat_ground 2, 0, 0, 0
    stat_mental 14, disciplined, highly_trained
    stat_charge_dist 30
    stat_fire_delay 0
    stat_food 60, 300
    stat_cost 2, 1220, 460, 130, 190, 1220
    ownership greek_cities

    Which number is the one that I add the troops to?
    Last edited by Siris; 07-27-2005 at 18:35.

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    Default Re: Massive Units? -- Need Help

    Spartan hoplites should be limited to 10 men, in order to make it fair for the 300 guys trying to kill them.

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    Default Re: Massive Units? -- Need Help

    So here is the Spartan stat's, for example: type greek hoplite spartan dictionary greek_hoplite_spartan ; Spartan Hoplites category infantry class spearmen voice_type Medium_1 soldier greek_hoplite_spartan_pylos, 40, 0, 1.3
    the bolded number in your quote pertain in the normal unit size.
    Taking as example the spartans we have:
    1. Small size is 20. Derived from normal unit size(=40)*0.5
    2. Normal size is 40.
    3. Big size is 80. Derived from normal unit size(=40)*2
    4. Huge size is 160. Derived from normal unit size(=40)*4

    So if you want to play like Leonidas and his 300 Spartans in huge battles you have to edit the quoted line as follows:
    Code:
    greek_hoplite_spartan_pylos, 76, 0, 1.3
    now you will have 304 fearless Spartan hoplites!!
    In addition you will have:
    1. 34 in small size
    2. 76 in normal size
    3. 152 in big size

    Note that the division of normal size unit is needed to be a whole number. Don't use normal size number like 75(75*0.5=37.5) or so.
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    Default Re: Massive Units? -- Need Help

    I have no idea what your talking about on the whole numbers, however, you just solved my problem, so I thank you very much!

    As soon as I get the chance on my new PC, I'll try it out.

    Heh, can you imagine a phalanx line that extends the entire map? Just do a clean sweep, and you've killed every enemy, they'll have no where to run!

    But also, massive seiges here I come!

    Oh man I cant wait until I can get on the good PC.

    I'm only 18, & I have nearly $900 so far for my own personal PC, however my Dad, he sits on our current good PC for 12+ hours every day, so it is difficult to get on, but my Greek Campaign is coming along so far.

    Hehe, I cant wait for battles with 4,000 Armoured Hoplites vs. 4,000 Urban Cohorts, Hastati most likely though lol, but even still, the massacres will fulfil my dreams of RTW!!!!!!!

    I'll get some screeny's in here if I can manage to get them in time.

    ** Edit **

    Can you post a few screen's of a Preatorian 300 man unit, & Spartan 300 man unit?

    And yes, I was thinking of having armies of only 300 men a piece, like Thermoply, it will make the game more chalanging, & more fun/interesting.
    Last edited by Siris; 07-27-2005 at 19:36.

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