Research: the effect of Academies

[econ21]

Does anyone know the effects of upgrading the academy? The basic building seems to provide quite a lot of ancillaries, so the upgraded versions don't seem that much of a priority to build (especially when exponential population growth prevents you building everything you'd like).

[player1]

But academy and its upgrades give retinues only.

Also, exemot ordinary retinues you can get famous people which are unique (only one per campaign).

Benefits of upgraded buildings is a bit limited though.
Scriptorium add greatly to poor of famous people, but just several retinue members.

While Ludus Magnus is almost useless.
Total two of them, including one famous person.




P.S.
CVP and bug-fixer do give some chance to increase some of the traits.

[Aesculapius]

By the way, if you have installed player1's Bugfixer patch (which is becoming more like a low-grade mod), you will find that the Academies DO affect character traits.

[player1]

Added to prevent some of the skills never improving after birth (mathematics, philosophy, etc...)

[Avicenna]

Maybe what you said is true and academies don't affect traits, but my 2 family members who lived in cities with academies are the 2 best 16 year-olds I have ever had: one had so many traits that I needed to drag down to see them all, and he had the highest command and influence ratings in the entire faction. Another was born as my best governor(best governing traits, and best management when all management boosting ancillaries were given to him).

[Severous]

Now thats an interesting thought.

Children growing up in a city with an academy will join the game already possessing academy related traits. Never expected this.

[lottrbacchus]

.02 the governor of my capital, which has an academy, seemingly randomly got a trait increase to influence or management (can't remember which) on my start of the turn reports. i'm only on my first long campaign, but fairly well along, and haven't had that happen to anyone anywhere else.

oh! here is something relevant from EDCT
Trigger education
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition IsGeneral
and EndedInSettlement
and RemainingMPPercentage = 100
and SettlementBuildingExists >= academy
and Trait Ignorance < 1
and Trait Insane <= 1

Affects PhilosophySkill 1 Chance 1
Affects NaturalPhilosophySkill 1 Chance 1
Affects RhetoricSkill 1 Chance 1
Affects GoodEngineer 1 Chance 1

;------------------------------------------
Trigger education2
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition IsGeneral
and EndedInSettlement
and RemainingMPPercentage = 100
and SettlementBuildingExists >= scriptorium
and Trait Ignorance < 1
and Trait Insane <= 1

Affects PoeticSkill 1 Chance 1
Affects TacticalSkill 1 Chance 1
Affects ArchitectSkill 1 Chance 1
Affects Stoic 1 Chance 1
Affects LogisticalSkill 1 Chance 1

;------------------------------------------
Trigger education3
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition IsGeneral
and EndedInSettlement
and RemainingMPPercentage = 100
and Trait Ignorance < 1
and Trait Insane <= 1
and SettlementBuildingExists = ludus_magnus
and CultureType roman

Affects BoringSpeaker 1 Chance 1
Affects MathematicsSkill 1 Chance 1
Affects StrategicSkill 1 Chance 1
Affects PhilosophySkill 1 Chance 1
Affects PoliticsSkill 1 Chance 1


ha ha! the ludus magnus has the chance of turning your general into one of those annoying academic gits (boring speaker)!