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    One issue discussed on Newsnight tonight was that of what to name the new Iraqi state. While I don't see what's wrong with just calling it Iraq, there are clearly those that want to give it a longer and more formal title. The problem is just what to call it.

    Main suggestions included:
    The Islamic Republic Of Iraq
    The Federal Republic Of Iraq
    The Republic Of Iraq

    Unfortunately, whatever they name it, there are bound to be connotations. Naming it the Islamic Republic of Iraq would give it the same title as Iran and would suggest that the country is run by religious law rather than secular legislation. Federal Republic sounds too Western...

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    United States of Corporate Privatised Iraq.
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    Something in Arabic I would imagine.

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    Iraq: Shining beacon of hope for all the oppressed in the middle east.

    Nah..takes too long to say

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAG
    United States of Corporate Privatised Iraq.
    Now now, let's give them a chance before we become too cynical.

    This wasn't intended as a spam thread. I was thinking more along the line of what would be most appropriate rather than a front-room esque idea toss.
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    "The Republic of IRAQ"

    However the more accurate would be "US Oil Reserves of Iraq". :p
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    What's wrong with the one it has already?

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    The Nationalist Socialist Peoples Republic maybe?

    New Iraqi constitution

    Quote Originally Posted by Constitution
    Article 5

    "The Iraqi people are one people, unified by belief and the unity of the homeland and culture. Anything that exposes this unity to danger is forbidden."

    "The state shall take responsibility for combating moral and behavioral depravity and encourage people and agencies to spread virtue, providing it help and support. The state shall ensure harmony between the duties of woman toward her family and her work in the society and equality with men in the fields of political, social, and economic life without conflicting with or disturbing the provisions of the Islamic shari'a."

    4. The state shall ensure harmony between the duties of woman toward her family and her work in the society and equality with men in the fields of political, social, and economic life without conflicting with or disturbing the provisions of the Islamic shari‘a.

    Article 6.
    "There is no censorship on newspapers, printing, publishing, advertising, or media except by law."

    Article 12
    "Compulsory service (the corvee), slavery, the slave trade, forced labor, or any work that is imposed on the Iraq citizen not in accordance with the provisions of the constitution or the law are forbidden."

    6. Citizens are equal in assuming public positions in accordance with the conditions established by law.

    Article 13 proclaims "citizens are equal in assuming public position" – but only "in accordance with the conditions established by law."

    "Public and private freedoms are protected provided they do not conflict with moral values and public decency."
    This is a very strange document!

    If all these rights are dependent on implementing legislation, then they are rather meaningless aren't they?

    Does the above article 12 mean that slavery would be legal if passed into law?
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    I hadn't read the constitution until now. What a joke! It doesn't seems to safe-guard anything.
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    Mesopotamia

    May not be strictly accurate but nevermind, it sounds cool.

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    I would call it...Iraq.

    It's the only name anybody's ever going to use, so I don't see what the point of causing lots of debate over a long name is.
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    New Texas

    Freedomland

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    Quagmire

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    Brilliant ichi. brilliant.

    How about United Federation of Iraq?


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    Have fun, ichi, JAG, kiwitt, et all?

    That's a pretty sucky constitution. The only way to fix it would be...

    Liberal activist judges. We'll export ours over to Iraq and watch the constitutional fireworks.

    The problem with just calling it "Iraq" is that it doesn't really sound nice. Lot's of countries (see the CIA Factbook for specifics) have longer formal names, but are referred to by shortened names. If we are going to set up a puppet nation, dammit we'll do it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander the Pretty Good
    Have fun, ichi, JAG, kiwitt, et all?
    My First holds really "The Republic of Iraq" and I honestly wish them all the success then can get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwitt
    My First holds really "The Republic of Iraq" and I honestly wish them all the success then can get.
    suuuuuuuuuuuuure you do...
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    Quagmire
    Taking after Ted Kennedy are we? I hope you havent got a girlfriend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PanzerJager
    Taking after Ted Kennedy are we? I hope you havent got a girlfriend.
    Or drive over bridges.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave
    suuuuuuuuuuuuure you do...
    Do I want the Iraq to fail ? Not me. If Democracy can spread throughout the Mid-East, it will be a better place. And BTW oil will be cheaper, maybe.
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    Iran actually calls itself a Replubic?!!!

    Wow. Ya learn something new every day...

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    And they're technically a democracy. In effect, however, they're about as democratic as the Pope.

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    If memory serves, I heard some discussion on this a while back and Iraq decided to stick with plain old Iraq

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    Thats easy
    Make it the

    Iraqi Republic Americas Quagmire

    or

    IRAQ for short
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    ROFL

    United Kingdom,
    United States of America(didn't fall to far from the tree on that one),
    Commonwealth of Australia.

    United Commonwealth Kingdom of Persia.
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    Well if we loose o it could be

    Iraqi Republic of Al Queada
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander the Pretty Good
    The problem with just calling it "Iraq" is that it doesn't really sound nice. Lot's of countries (see the CIA Factbook for specifics) have longer formal names, but are referred to by shortened names. If we are going to set up a puppet nation, dammit we'll do it right.
    It's not just "Lot's" of them, it's all of them. They all have longer names, depending on the type of governmental system they have set up. That's what decides it, not some kids on a wargaming site, not even the president of the united states. The name is bound by the system of government.

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    Gibraltar doesn't. It's in the factbook, but has no "conventional long form" name.

    Pwned! - just scroll down to Gibraltar.

    I don't really care if it's a dependency of the Great Britain. It's in the factbook, and that's all that matters.

    And the name isn't necessarily bound to the system of government.

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    The Democratic Federation of Iraq?

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    If you really think 'The Rock of Gibraltar' constitutes a country they you just pwned yourself, and the funny part is that you don't know that.

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