Missing Numidia

[Steppe Merc]

Cronos, the point is is that Rome in game will not always follow the same path, if it even survives, as in real life. Numidia could stay under control of Carthage, there is nothing saying that they will necassarily rebel and join the Romans. Rome could get conquered by Gaul, or by the Greeks, or whatever.
Besides, we have all of our factions done, and we are unlikely to change any of the set up.

[Cronos Impera]

Then could you tell me how you plan to organize the four " roman" factions?

[Mikeus Caesar]

And just to add on to all your stuff about not enough Slots and more important fractions, in RTW, Numidia is useless anyway.

[Big_John]

Then could you tell me how you plan to organize the four " roman" factions?

as khelvan has said, they are keeping that a secret until the open beta.

[caesar44]

Besides, we have all of our factions done, and we are unlikely to change any of the set up.

Told you...the thread is interesting but...pointless

[khelvan]

In any case, Numidia would be one of the last factions we added, even if we had more slots to fill. We can more easily simulate her involvement in world affairs as rebels/unique units than as a faction. A faction would have her creating ahistorical relationships and boundaries.

[caesar44]

But........
All of North Africa is left for 1 (one , I) , that is , 1 faction (not including Egypt) , seems to me no good
The balance......

[Steppe Merc]

Is irrelevant. Game balance comes after history.

[khelvan]

Carthage was never balanced by Numidia. Numidia was a bump in the road for Carthage. The balance, as it should be, is provided by factions such as Ptolemaic Egypt and Rome.

[caesar44]

Carthage was never balanced by Numidia. Numidia was a bump in the road for Carthage. The balance, as it should be, is provided by factions such as Ptolemaic Egypt and Rome.

No nice , no nice , a bump in the road ? Mighty Carthage never took it !!! even before the roman invasion to N. Africa

[caesar44]

Is irrelevant. Game balance comes after history.

Steppe , if history , than have Numidia... it was a kingdom , not a dream

[khelvan]

Steppe , if history , than have Numidia... it was a kingdom , not a dream

Not an independent, expansionist one. At one time it was almost completely subjugated by Carthage. In another it was divided, both fighting for Rome against Carthage and for Carthage against Rome.

Its historical contribution is most readily seen in its resistance against both Rome and Carthage, and its alliances with both. At various times, of course, and sometimes at the very same time. Since we can and will have unique units for the area available to Rome and Carthage, among others, who take the correct provinces, and we can make the rebels in the area very strong to drive out invaders, this more readily shows the Numidian involvement in the Punic wars and other historical moments than an independent, expansionist nation.

I have yet to see any argument backed with evidence, inside or out of the team, for representing Numidia as an independent, expansionist, nation-building group. We can show Numidia's impact on the region and on the Punic Wars through other methods.