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    Default Mc Carthyism another lie by the left.




    I have permission to send you this excellent essay by Phil Brennan:





    Forget Hell! Joe McCarthy was Right - and the Left was Viciously Wrong



    We both read the same piece in the New York Times Sunday Magazine. But Jude Wanniski, with whom I almost always agree, had a different slant than I had on the story: The Rehabilitation of Sen. Joe McCarthy.



    That piece, a reasonably even-handed treatment of the latest revelations about the extent of Soviet espionage and penetration of U.S. institutions, makes clear that the remnants of the left wing anti-anti communist movement are very uncomfortable with the obvious conclusion that must be drawn from the revelation that many of those who liberals believed were victims of alleged McCarthyite smears were Soviet agents after all.



    Jude thinks that the time may be here to begin to forgive and forget -- and he cites personal reasons for so believing that I find hard to dispute. His approach is fully in line with the Lord's admonition to avoid judging others -- to forgive our enemies a limitless number of times. I see it differently. I am aware that I am bound by the Catholic faith we both share to look for the plank in my own eye before looking for the specks in the eyes of others, and I know that I am also bound to offer forgiveness to those who offend me. BUT, as much as I am aware that I have huge planks blurring my own vision, I am also aware that forgiveness requires remorse from the putative forgivee -- and I find precious little of that from those who savaged McCarthy, J. Edgar Hoover, and scores of others who dared to expose a real menace in our midst.



    The Times' story narrows it's focus to Soviet spying by such darlings of the left as Alger Hiss and Julius and Ethel Rosenberg. It fails utterly to address the even more serious issue of Soviet penetration of American institutions -- and the influence that the Soviets were able to exert over those institutions. For example, the presence of Alger Hiss at Roosevelt's elbow at the Yalta conference where a dying FDR acceded to the surrender of Eastern Europe to Joseph Stalin. Hiss's influence at Yalta was far deadlier than the secrets he fed to his GRU (Soviet Military Intelligence) handlers. And that was just one instance of the influence; he and other secret Soviet agents were able to exert over U.S. policy.



    Jude admits that Joe McCarthy, like all of us, was a flawed human being, and quotes Bill Buckley along the same lines. Bill cedes the fact that on many occasions Joe simply was out of line. But the thrust of his campaign against Soviet stooges among us was right on target most of the time.



    I refuse to simply close the books on the so-called McCarthy era because the excesses of the far-left against anti-communists were forerunners of the excesses of the liberals of the present day. They smeared their foes, lied about them, and created a whole slew of myths that remain current to this day. And they continue to use the same tactic; take for example the disgraceful behavior of the liberal Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee impeachment hearings or Senate Democrats who stymied the Thompson Committee investigation into Chinese espionage and their illegal campaign contributions to the Democrats and Clinton/Gore.



    Let's start with the phrase McCarthyism -- a slander the left simply loves to hang around the necks of anybody who happens to disagree with them and tries to counter their deadly influence over American life. Do any of those who throw the word around have the faintest idea of where that word was coined? Are they aware that it was hatched in the bowels of number 3, Dzherzinsky Square -- headquarters of the KGB in Moscow? Or that it was first used in the columns of the communist newspaper, the Daily Worker before the left wing media and their liberal allies eagerly picked it up for use against anti-communists, thereby doing exactly what the Soviets expected them to do?



    Then there's the matter of the source of many of Joe's accusations -- accusations being proved today by release of the so-called Venona Intercepts -- of Soviet cable traffic whose code was broken back in the mid-forties and remained top secret until recently. These intercepted cables proved that there were over 350 Americans spying for the Soviets, and enabled investigators to identify about half of them. Joe McCarthy had access to the information contained in the top secret Venona intercepts -- access given him by J. Edgar Hoover and others concerned with the extent of Soviet espionage and penetration -- but he could not defend himself against charges of recklessly accusing people of being Soviet agents by revealing the source of his information without alerting the Soviets that some of their most important secrets were known to U.S. intelligence.



    We hear much about the plight of the so-called victims of McCarthyism -- an alleged army of people unfairly targeted by the Wisconsin Senator. Gallons of tears are shed over Hollywood actors, writers and others working in films. The so-called blacklist that allegedly kept innocent people from working in Hollywood (despite the fact that their left-wing friends continued to use many of these identified members of the Soviet led American communist party -- lately revealed as totally an instrument of the Soviet Union -- while concealing their assistance).



    There are a couple of things wrong with this story. First, these people were not what they are called today -- victims of McCarthyism. Joe had nothing to do with the Hollywood hearings which cited the communist membership of those accused -- they were solely the work of the House UnAmerican Activities Committee. And the so-called victims were members of the Soviet-dominated U.S. Communist party.



    Secondly, the real blacklist was composed of anti-communists -- famous and not so famous actors and directors who could not find work because of their anti-communist activities. People like Adolph Menjou, Ward Bond, Bruce Cabot -- all members of John Wayne's anti-communist Motion Picture Alliance. Wayne courageously stood up for these people -- and you can see most of them in reruns of countless Wayne films. He used them over and over, keeping them working when nobody else would hire them. They were the real victims of the real blacklist.



    The viciousness directed at conservatives and anti-communists by the left during the í40s and í50s is displayed today against pro-lifers, religious conservatives and all others opposed to the socialist agenda that liberals seek to impose on America. And the socialism that they espouse is every bit as coercive as the Soviet communist system with which they could find no wrong in the days of Joe McCarthy. Communism, after all, was described simply as "socialism in a hurry."



    The heirs of the people who could tolerate Stalin's murderous regime which slew people by the millions are the people who find it easy to tolerate the horror of partial birth abortion -- and the sale of the body parts of the tiny victims of this holocaust. And they employ the same smear tactics and lies against pro-lifers that their forerunners used against McCarthy, Hoover and their fellow anti-communists.



    Moreover, the left today perpetuates their lies and myths. The smear tactics used by the Soviets to discredit J. Edgar Hoover by falsely charging that he was a cross-dressing sexual deviant are taken as fact by the media despite the fact that it has been revealed that the charges -- utterly unproven and absurd -- originated in the KGB's disinformation shop.



    Does anybody really believe that the most famous cop in America -- a man almost paranoid about maintaining his privacy, as well as being a target for every red and crook in the nation, could show up at parties dressed as a woman and not have the fact explode in headlines within hours? C'mon, give me a break!



    These are a few of the reasons why I simply refuse to forgive and forget -- these people and their heirs are still at it. When they repent, I'll forgive.
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    Joseph McCarthy was not a subtle or even a pleasant man, but I do think he did a service to the United States by bringing into the light the threat of Communist infiltration. Some of his tactics were a little over the top, but he is nowhere close to being the bogeyman the left portrays him as. And in point of fact he was largely correct in his assessment of a Communist conspiracy in the US government, and the threat that such agents posed to the United States.

    The defection of Igor Gouzenko, a code clerk in the Soviet embassy in Ottawa, in early September, 1945 alerted Canada and the US to the dangers of Soviet agents, and helped to roll up some of their spy network's in Canada (22 communist agents). Sen. Joseph McCarthy brought the inaction of the American government on this issue to the forefront.

    The collapse of Communism opened files of not only internal Soviet spy documents but also gave the FBI, CIA, and American scholars access to the files of the American Communist Party that had been hidden in a Russian warehouse since 1950.

    High level spies within the United States government;

    Alger Hiss who had been the number three man at State behind Dean Acheson and Dean Rusk, and who, most assuredly, at some point, would have eventually been Secretary of State.

    Harry Dexter White, Assistant Secretary of the Treasury, who purposely withheld allocated funding for the Chinese Nationalists, during their Civil War, that destroyed their currency and, thus, their efforts against Mao's Communists.

    Julius and Ethel Rosenberg had been conduits for even more damaging information than the atom bomb, for which they were executed.

    Lauchlin Currie, Special Assistant to F.D.R. Samuel Dickstein, member of the House of Representatives from Brooklyn.

    William and Martha Dodd, son and daughter of the U.S. ambassador to Germany in the 1930's.

    Lawrence Duggan, State Department Director of Latin American Affairs.

    Harold Ickes, Sr., father of Clinton's impeachment flack, who was Secretary of the Interior.

    William Weisband, U.S. Army Signal Security Agency.

    Klaus Fuchs and Ted Hall, Soviet agents at Los Alamos

    Robert Oppenheimer, the Director of the Atom Bomb Project at Los Alamos, New Mexico denied ever being a member of the Communist Party, but evidence seems to suggest that he may well have been.

    His wife was. His brother was. His mistress was. As were many of his closest associates at the University of California. In addition, Oppenheimer was one of those scientists in the 40's who thought that all scientific information should be shared universally for the good of mankind.

    On this basis alone the idea that he should not have been deprived of his security clearance doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

    Gregory Kheifetz was operating under cover as Soviet vice consul in San Francisco from late 1941 to the summer of 1944. He claims to have recruited Oppenheimer. Gregg Herken points out that this may have been an attempt by Kheifetz "to avoid execution for failure to perform while he was the NKVD’s main spy in the Bay area.”

    Or it may not. Kheifetz was cleared of the charges against him, promoted and given a medal. He was chief of section of Department S, atomic espionage, until he fell victim to the anti-semitic purge of 1947. It would seem that Oppenheimer was never formally recruited as a Soviet agent which they tried to do in 1944. Prior to this he may have just been a "friend of the Soviet Union".

    The Merkulov letter to Beria raises the question of whether Robert Oppenheimer was a spy for the Soviet Union during the wartime period when he directed the Manhattan project.
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    Letter from Boris Merkulov to Lavrenty Beria

    Letter from Boris Merkulov (USSR People’s Commissar for State Security) to Lavrenty Beria (USSR People’s Commissar for Internal Affairs), 2 October 1944

    2 October 4 [1944] TOP SECRET
    1107/M URGENT
    Copy # 2

    PEOPLE’S COMMISSAR FOR INTERNAL AFFAIRS OF THE USSR
    GENERAL COMMISSAR OF STATE SECURITY

    Comrade BERIA, L.P.

    In accordance with your instruction of 29 September 1944, NKGB USSR continues measures for obtaining more detailed information on the state of work on the [problem of uranium] [handwritten] and its development abroad.
    In the period 1942-1943 important data on the start of work in the [USA] [handwritten] on this problem was received from our foreign agent network using the contacts of Comrade Zarubin and Kheifitz in their execution of important tasks in line with the executive committee of the Comintern.
    In 1942 one of the leaders of scientific work on [uranium] in the USA, Professor Oppenheimer while being an unlisted (nglastny) member of the apparat of Comrade Browder] [handwritten] informed us about the beginning of work.
    On the request of Comrade Kheifitz, confirmed by [Comrade Browder,] [handwritten] he provided cooperation in access to research for several of our tested sources including a relative of [Comrade Browder] [handwritten].
    Due to complications of the operational situation in the [USA,] [handwritten] dissolution of the [Comintern] [handwritten] and explanations of Comrades Zarubin and Kheifitz on the Mironov affair it is expedient to immediately sever contacts of leaders and activists of the [American Communist Party] [handwritten] with scientists and specialists engaged in work on [uranium.] [handwritten]

    NKGB requests the consent of the leadership [Instancia].

    PEOPLE’S COMMISSAR OF STATE SECRUITY USSR
    Commissar of State Security First Rank
    Signed/ MERKULOV


    Handwritten note by Beria “Correct”. 2October 1944


    Printer—3 copies
    No.1 Comrade Beria
    No.2 Sec. NKGB
    No.3 Dept. NKGB

    [Ed. Note: On page 1, signed acknowledgement of L. Beria “Received” signed by Merkulov on 3 October 1944 .
    The original document was typed with blank underlined sections. The missing information was written in later by hand. This security measure made sensitive information available only to “need to know “ officials and was a standard Soviet security practice.]
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    man.....i gotta turn conservative....


    you guys obviously have acess to the best drugs out there don´t ya?

    come on....share the goods man!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin
    man.....i gotta turn conservative....


    you guys obviously have acess to the best drugs out there don´t ya?

    come on....share the goods man!
    It called reality man! And it's some really powerful stuff, but you have be careful about how much you take all at once. Liberals especially, never having tried it before need to go slowly.
    "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
    -- John Stewart Mills

    But from the absolute will of an entire people there is no appeal, no redemption, no refuge but treason.
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    Well actually the reality is that insane bastard wanted to nuke China and North Korea at the same time. That would have end in millions of people being killed, and a lot more sick even here in Canada.

    I haven't read the article because frankly any article that speaks well of this guy does not deserve my attention.

    Have fun.

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    Default Re: Mc Carthyism another lie by the left.

    I haven't read the article because frankly any article that speaks well of this guy does not deserve my attention.
    Worried it might challenge your preconcieved notions?

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    McCarthy was a great, great man. Too bad he wasn't president. America would have won the cold war then.

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    McCarthy was a bum. Who cares if people were communist? They had every right to be. If there were any Soviet agents, well that isn't good. But he had no right to do what he did. Being Communist isn't a crime, last I looked.

    The heirs of the people who could tolerate Stalin's murderous regime which slew people by the millions are the people who find it easy to tolerate the horror of partial birth abortion -- and the sale of the body parts of the tiny victims of this holocaust. And they employ the same smear tactics and lies against pro-lifers that their forerunners used against McCarthy, Hoover and their fellow anti-communists.
    Mini Holocaust. Swell.
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