Mc Carthyism another lie by the left.

[Red Harvest]

I spent a little while wondering whether i should dignify this with a response. If you've read any of my posts on this subject at all, you'd know I am not against religious congressmen. What I am against are congressmen using religion to further their agenda. The Senate is supposed to be a pure, objective institution. And while it sure as hell rarely comes to that point, muddying everything up with religious bias is a bad choice any way you slice it.

Amen. (Yes, the irony is intentional.) I agree 100%, am so sick of religion being used as a political tool that I can't even express my level of frustration with it. It should be IRRELEVANT. I can tell you one thing, it has tested my faith listening to these pharisee's abuse their faith. It does give me a better understanding of how screwed up religious based govts are though.

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

So what political tools are OK? Or are just religion-based ones bad? And why?

[Gawain of Orkeny]

If, and only if that religious rationale contradicts pure and simple logic. It doens't take a genius to see that Religion uses common-sense heavily in some it's more basic principles, so saying it should not coincide at all is just silly.

Amen. (Yes, the irony is intentional.) I agree 100%, am so sick of religion being used as a political tool that I can't even express my level of frustration with it. It should be IRRELEVANT. I can tell you one thing, it has tested my faith listening to these pharisee's abuse their faith. It does give me a better understanding of how screwed up religious based govts are though.

You really are either a walking contradiction or the biggest hypocrite ive seen on these boards. IRRELEVANT is right for once. It dosent matter where the person gets these beliefs but that they are either correct or you agree with them. Whats your beef with religion? By the way I dont care for organised religions of any denomiation.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

You just quoted two different people.

I know . Red usually manages to make refute himself in many of his posts. Its seems he is what he hates.

[Red Harvest]

I know . Red usually manages to make refute himself in many of his posts. Its seems he is what he hates.

Funny, I haven't seen that at all. I have seen you as being incredibly self contradictory and full of hate. (Why is it the conservatives that are seem to want to bring hate into every discussion? Hmmmm.) Your irrational abhorrence of Clinton actually leads you to side with those who say the U.S. brought on terrorist acts for siding against the Soviets or against genocide. That had to have been the most inane piece of BS I've seen in quite awhile and reminded me very much of the fake native american professor who referred to 9/11 victims as "little Eichmans."

Of course, your world is simple black and white, mine is not. So I guess you find that you take any interpretation of gray as a refutation.

And what is with all these heavily biased sensationalistic articles that you like to quote? It's classic yellow journalism that you continually post as if it was scientific fact. The BS meter pegs on half that stuff and you eat it up. Intellectual discussion is fine, but at least start with something credible.