Faction re-emergence peculiarities

[dgfred]

Sounds rough. I've learned through a couple of my games that leaving rebel provinces of eliminated factions close by is not very wise.

That was my problem . The loyalty was soooo low and the troops
they had sucked so bad that I thought it would be OK to let the Rebels be.
Little did I know English would emerge with Elite troops that they didn't even
have before . What was really bad was that they had not been
eliminated, just restricted to one province. Oh well, live (or die) and learn.

[EatYerGreens]

Sounds like some kind of glitch going on there.

Normally, a re-emergence can't happen until after a faction leader has been eliminated with no heir, at which point any remaining provinces held by their troops should go grey and be marked up as rebels. If they still had a province with red troops, this shouldn't have happened.

Bit of a long shot but it could have been their king got killed, or they couldn't afford the ransom if he'd been captured but, in the very same turn, an heir came of age, so instant re-emergence without time available to have their leftover province properly turn rebel.

If you look closely, the year counter doesn't actually increment until after all the post-battle messages have been displayed. So, in actual fact, you pressed end year, their king died but the re-emergence message appears before the year counter clicks over, whereas it's actually happening in the year to come. The re-emergence battle isn't resolved until the next time end year is pressed.

[dgfred]

I haven't a clue . I had captured the province a turn or two before
then gave it up because I felt I couldn't hold it due to the sorry loyalty and
lack of available troops. The English were down to one province, then both
rebels and these elite horses showed up. The rebels had many more troops
and won the battle vs the English. The next turn the rebels still controlled
the province and the remaining English troops were spread about their now
2 provinces . What do you think is up?

[mfberg]

Check the English troops
1. One may be ransomed, and the other would be the retreating/moved force.
2. One or both may have retreated/moved out of the province before the battle.