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    Peasants are cannon fodder and work especially with elite units that won't flee when the peasants do.

    They can be used to stop a cavalry charge, so your men at arms don't have to suffer the direct charge.

    Stopping any charge. Peasants have a strong charge which is better than many units and can give these units a better advantage.

    Expendable flankers, flanking is often dangerous, especially in large battles where your flankers could end up surrounded. Peasants are a worthy subtitute and their numbersm ena you can easily surround an enemy unit and break it.

    Helping small elite units. Small elite units tend to be surrounded by several units drastically reducing their effectiveness. Peasants can keep them at bay allowing your elite units to focus more on killing instead of self preservation.

    Chase off archers. AI archers usually flee from peasants and if they do engage they will be caught up for a while and won't be able to fire.

    Preventing rebellion after you've conquerred a province, so more expensive units don't have to suffer. Spies are cheaper in the long run though.


    Spearmen are much better than peasants at everything apart from there needing to be a spearmaker, which is only 4 turns up from a fort and their slightly higher upkeep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patron
    Peasants are cannon fodder and work especially with elite units that won't flee when the peasants do.

    They can be used to stop a cavalry charge, so your men at arms don't have to suffer the direct charge.

    Stopping any charge. Peasants have a strong charge which is better than many units and can give these units a better advantage.

    Expendable flankers, flanking is often dangerous, especially in large battles where your flankers could end up surrounded. Peasants are a worthy subtitute and their numbersm ena you can easily surround an enemy unit and break it.

    Helping small elite units. Small elite units tend to be surrounded by several units drastically reducing their effectiveness. Peasants can keep them at bay allowing your elite units to focus more on killing instead of self preservation.

    Chase off archers. AI archers usually flee from peasants and if they do engage they will be caught up for a while and won't be able to fire.

    Preventing rebellion after you've conquerred a province, so more expensive units don't have to suffer. Spies are cheaper in the long run though.


    Spearmen are much better than peasants at everything apart from there needing to be a spearmaker, which is only 4 turns up from a fort and their slightly higher upkeep.
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    I use UMs as garrisons. IIRC, they give your province an extra boost to loyalty over other garrison units. And, if push comes to shove, UMs are better in a fight than Peasants.

    But the idea of using peasants for cheap flankers isn't bad. Being flanked gives any unit a morale hit, regardless of the quality of flankers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mount Suribachi
    I use UMs as garrisons. IIRC, they give your province an extra boost to loyalty over other garrison units. And, if push comes to shove, UMs are better in a fight than Peasants.
    If I'm not mistaken, it's the buildings that make UM's and MS's that give the province a loyatly boost - 60 UM's will not give more loyalty to a province than 60 men of another type of unit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Budwise
    True, True - But them routing right off the bat and destroying the moral of your whole army isn't really worth the little good they can do. Its better just to pee on them.
    I think you totally underestimate peasants. They can soil themselves thank you very much, or come presoiled if that is to your liking.
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    I found a use for Peasants that is working great for me at the moment: morale killers.

    When I have a high-command general leading an attack, I'll often follow-up with a bum run of Peasants, just flooding the battlefield and getting into all the cracks (behind the enemy, on their flanks, everywhere). If the Peasants are at 3-4 "trickledown valour", I find that their decent charge puts those enemy units one step closer to routing. I like to inflict as many morale penalties as possible.

    I never used to use them for anything except garrison duty, but this recent discovery has changed my mind. Cheap as chips.

    (I am playing on Hard, btw, not Expert)

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    Quote Originally Posted by antisocialmunky
    I think you totally underestimate peasants. They can soil themselves thank you very much, or come presoiled if that is to your liking.

    LOL!! Good one, antisocialmonkey.


    I don't go for peasants, simply because they weren't really involved in medieval warfare that much. If I need cannon fodder or cheap flankers, well then that's what spearmen and urban militia are for (or clansmen if you got 'em). Of course it's a moot point in my case, as I play Medieval with the XL mod.....
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