Quote Originally Posted by antisocialmunky
Usually the Italians and Spanish go nuts in vanillia, the Danes sit there veging.
I have vanilla and most games the Italians are VERY strong . Spain occaisionally gets in a slugging match with the Aloms and
doesn't get so big. In my current game as HRE (hard) I have taken Denmark,
Sweden, Norway, Pomerania, Prussia and Silesia . I am gearing up
to slam into France just before the next conquest count. My biggest
competitors are Italy (large, weak armies) and the Byzantines (most GA pts
so far) Spain has been contained and both Spain and Italy have been
excommunicated for destroying Aragon. But Italy has remained strong . The date is 1137.