Is there a racial double standard in the USA

[scooter_the_shooter]

I was watching the TV yesterday and a commercial came on. It went something like this.

#35 percent of people who need organ transplants are African American.

(I Forget the number) of percent of homeless people are African American.

Etc a bunch of other stuff like that about colored people.



Only you can help them donate money. (Or something like that)

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The first thing that crossed my mind was "who gives a !@#$ if they are African American or not? Shouldn’t we want to help all people in that situation regardless of color?"



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Then I started thinking about it some more. If that commercial was for white people the makers would be called racist and bigots. And maybe even go to jail.

There seems to be a double standard for the different colors in this country.


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If some one says 'I am going to bust a cap in whitey" People will think nothing of it.

If some one says "I am going to go stab me a negro" People will look at you in shock and maybe even call the police.

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Look at comedy central with shows like chapelle show and that new one with the Spanish guy. If a white guy was up there saying the things they say he would be taken off the air and maybe arrested.

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Then you have organizations like the "united negro college fund" or something like that. I don’t think those are fair because on the news not long ago people
were Getting upset over a white only college fund.

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I am just reading to much into a stupid commercial or is this really a problem.


If this is really a problem I think its because of that politically correct BS

[Franconicus]

How is the integration going in the US. When I was in school I learned that the US is the big 'melting pot'. However I saw that there is black music, for example. Are there still differences?

[scooter_the_shooter]

There is all the different races here... but it seems the minorities are able to get away with more.

[Kaiser of Arabia]

I know exactly what you mean. The radical left wing of America (the Democrats, the ACLU, etc) feel a need to help the "struggling" minority that they don't even realize that their "help" is only hindering their advancment. Seriously, isn't channels like BET (Black Entertainment Television) rascist if a White Entertainment channel is? Why are racial slurs like "Cracker" and "Pinkey" acceptable when things like "c*******" and "negro" aren't?

And there are other things designed to "help" the minorities that only hurt us as a whole. For example, most universities would take an underqualified black student over a qualified white student just because the underqualified student is black. Forgive me, but isn't that racial preferance? Why yes I do beleive it is. Another thing is that the exams to become a policeman or lawyer are different for minorities, and not only that, but their designed to be easier! That means that we have cops who are not qualified to be out there guarding our streets. That puts us all at danger.

I am getting sick of this whole "America has an obligation to help the black man" mentality. Lincoln freed the slaves over a hundred and fourty years ago, yet many of them still cannot get their act together. I know many blacks, in fact, I have a few blacks amongst my friends, and they are doing fine because they don't use their race as a get out of jail free card (literally or metephorically).

Don't get me started on the Mexicans...

[scooter_the_shooter]

I know what you mean capo. They talk about equality for minorities.... what about us

They are trying so hard not to be racist against them that they are being racist against us.

[Taffy_is_a_Taff]

there is a double standard.

As for the melting pot: that applied to the large waves of early 20th century European migration and the creation of a generic sort of White American identity. People try to use it for US society at large but it doesn't quite work, some people say that a salad bowl or stew is a better description: each group picking up a little flavour of the others without losing their identity.

[KukriKhan]

"...Don't get me started on the Mexicans..."

A fine idea.

Tread very carefully down this path, ladies and gentlemen. We can discuss discrimination, counter-discrimination, and so-called 'reverse-discrimination', as long as forum rules against group/race-bashing are observed.

I am unaware that any US state bar exam is different based on race or any other criteria. Link?

Likewise police entrance exams.

[Kaiser of Arabia]

"...Don't get me started on the Mexicans..."

A fine idea.

Tread very carefully down this path, ladies and gentlemen. We can discuss discrimination, counter-discrimination, and so-called 'reverse-discrimination', as long as forum rules against group/race-bashing are observed.

I am unaware that any US state bar exam is different based on race or any other criteria. Link?

Likewise police entrance exams.

It was in a newspaper article my dad showed me a while ago when he was getting ready for his court date (suing the State of New York over somthing, I forget what. He won )

[scooter_the_shooter]

Its the same thing with affirmative action. I might be a better worker but they pick the minority

[Al Khalifah]

Yes there is and the same thing exists in the UK.
We have had to be hideously careful when selecting applicants for jobs at places where I have worked so that there could not be seen to be any racism present in the selection process.
Those who shortlist interview candidates are given screened information that contains no information that could lead to prejudice.

Its a total farce, some of the applications read bizarely but it's what has to be done to stop people from trying to sue you.

[Franconicus]

We do not have these kind of problems in Germany. Maybe with female rights, butthey are not really a minority

[|OCS|Virus]

Of course there is a double standard, you don't see any WET {nehehe wet...} do you? no, because if I started a T.V. station and called it "White Entertainment T.V." I would instantly be slapped with a big red sticker that sais "Racist" right across my forehead. Sad thing is there is nothing I can do about it.

It is strange how most people say that these things are just untrue sterio types, but it keeps getting proved to me over and over again. For instance, my brother is the steriotypical "wigger" they call them. And you know what thats fine, you have the right in america to act or say anything you please, but when you start getting special treatment from it, it just needs to stop.

No one is going to give my brother special treatment for being a wigger, and why should they? they should give him as much special treatment as we should give a gay man. Thats my view on it.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

I meant in quantity, the amount of one when compared to the other.

Duh you mean theres more by the majority. What a revelation. Ill bet you percentage wise though its far more common among minorities.

And all racism is not equal. Affirmative action is not the equivelent of cops shooting a black guy down in the street.

So police shooting a black guy down in the street is an example of racism? Sounds like an emotional appeal.

What is funny is the "oppressed majority" boohooing. When you have plenty of money you can afford to be discriminated against.

Go back and read your first quote here. There are far more poor white people . What of them? I can tell you right now if you go to social servicess you have a far better chance of getting assitance if your not white.

[Del Arroyo]

Wow you're a fricking genius someone should give you a Nobel for keen insight and exemplary investigatory research...

[Azi Tohak]

Wow you're a fricking genius someone should give you a Nobel for keen insight and exemplary investigatory research...

Anyone here know who 'you' is? I'm curious now...

Colleges give preferance to legacies, veterans, point guards and cellists so why not race?

The arguments for affirmitive action are:

1) A more diverse campus provides better education. This is why they give preferance to some students so they have people from all over the country if possible.

2) Standardized tests are biased against blacks. From my own observation this seems to be true. People who were smart in class didn't do as well as it seemed they should on the SAT.

Redleg, I'm not condoning any kind of racism, I just don't agree with spending time on this issue when there are so many bigger ones.

But then I'm already in a college so what do I care

How exactly does 1 work? Let me see... If I have a black person in my class, and he asks questions of the teacher to clarify a point, he gets credit for helping to provide a better education? I ask a question and I'm just dumb whitey? But I will agree that I like meeting people from other areas. KSU is a huge Ag and cereal science school and I have met people from all over (including other countries) because of that. But why should it matter if one person is purple and the other one is green?

And maybe I throw the bull**** flag on #2? Some people just do not do well on tests. A friend of mine in high school, brilliant girl, wanted to go to an Ivy league school. Got a 1200 on the SAT. Yeah, I know that is pretty good, but she did not get in. Guess what color she was? (And I'll give you a hint, I live in Kansas.) I don't care what color they are if you are just a lousy test taker, you do poorly.

My mom worked for ACT (yes, the company that makes the ACT) and she helped out with the portion of the question development process the involves determining if questions are biased. The group was: 1 white female, 1 black male and female, 1 asian male and female, 1 latino male, 1 'Indian' female. Notice anything missing? Those damned tests ask the same questions of everyone. If you are just stupid or poorly educated, you are going to do poorly. But the tests must be examined to make sure they are not biased against anyone. Except white males don't get a voice.

Yes, I agree there are bigger concerns. But why is it that I hear about racism on the news?

Azi