Countdown to Open Beta - Iberia

**jerby** · 08-07-2005, 22:09

oh, before the next one get's here. where are the devotio-warriors? I'd really liek to see how they really looked (and if RTR nailed it)

**Moros** · 08-07-2005, 22:30

Originally Posted by jerby

oh, before the next one get's here. where are the devotio-warriors? I'd really liek to see how they really looked (and if RTR nailed it)

ofcourse all RTR's units are all 100% correct

note: the

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but hey, I couldn't make it more historical than them, they just don't have the historians. Tough they use to have a great one!

RTR isn't a bad mod, tough they could have changed more things like the ships, all those ZOR units in Custom (and MP?) and ofcourse the lack of attention to the barbarians. I'll be playing it till EB or BL comes out. And if it depens to EB I might play it for ages

no go back to work you modders

**jerby** · 08-07-2005, 22:39

well. despite my sarcasm, and criticism, i quite like it. I ahvent played rtw for 3 months, so it's quite the step up.
but, in this case, i wasnt bashing rtr. i was merely curious about it's accuracy, wich isn't RTR's goal; wich is playabillity (my guess)

**Dux Corvanus** · 08-07-2005, 23:22

I hate to tell it, but there was no such thing as devotio warrior dedicated units. Devotio Iberica was not a special kind of soldier, but simply a religious formula, this is, a loyalty oath, that some warriors made, swearing to fight until death before allowing their leader be killed or captured. So they put their lives at risk in order to keeping safe the object ot their oaths.

But... they had no special equipment, nor formed special bodyguard units, nor anything. Simply some warriors of some diverse units decided to do so, without being gathered for any special task.

It is known that Sertorius was so admired among natives that many did these oaths about him, and that he was saved several times by the spontaneous reaction of many men among the Iberian ranks that left what they were doing to take him to safety.

But there will be no devotio warriors in EB: that unit is a wargame invention based on a misconception. Having them as a kind of elite unit, with unique equipment, is as silly as those bull-warriors, or the head-hurlers.

So how they looked like? Well, they looked like any other warrior... like the guys they had on their side: some had made a special religious vote, and some not.

It could be a nice trait, tho.

**jerby** · 08-07-2005, 23:29

ahh, thnx dux!
but then. wich unit is the one in the Pictures (no source, i'm looking) with the fish-scale-helmet+armor?

**Dux Corvanus** · 08-08-2005, 00:02

Scale-armor warriors are based in those depicted in S. Miguel de Liria vases. We're not sure about that being scale-armor (lorica hamata), and experts are divided. But it's what it looks -and I'm rather sure about it:

**Artabrii** · 10-11-2005, 18:46

HI EB membres, good job!

I have a question for you: has this faction any " more celtic" unit? I think that this faction should have them. Celtiberians was armed with celtic swords and helmets...
Skins are beatiful, congratulations