Yet another case that shows why the death penalty is such a bad idea

[sharrukin]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pindar
I have made no case for arbitrary killing.

The state does have a right to kill. The military is a simple example. The police would be another.

State killing is state killing. Whether this applies to an external threat or an internal one: it is the same.

I have never argued the state can kill regardless of circumstance.

Do these statements seem inconsistent to anyone else?

State killing is state killing? Enemy soldiers, criminals, POWs, old people, babies? All equal and all good and moral so long as the state does it.

"I have never argued the state can kill regardless of circumstance."

No inconsistency that I can see!
The state has the right to kill, as do individuals based on the circumstances.

Some killing is not morally wrong, and some killing is.

[kiwitt]

Looking at Killing individuals what is the lowest level you will think it is right to kill someone for their crime

Genocidal Leader (Hundreds, thousands, millions)
Mass-Murderer (Dozens, hundreds, thousands i.e. terrorist)
Serial Killer (Multiple; One/two at a time)
Child-Rapist Murderer
Rapist Murderer
Assassin (Specific Target - Unknown - for money)
Murderer (Specific Target - Known - revenge)
Assault/Robber/Burglar Murder (In the act of committing a crime)
Crime of Passion (Lovers Triangle, etc.)
Metally impaired Murderer
Drunk Driver / Speeding Driver killing
Accidental killing (Negligent)
Adulterer (no one dead)
Drug Courier (no one dead)

While against the "Death Penalty" for reasons outlined above. If it was to be enforced, I would probably support "Rapist Murderers" and worse being executed.

[sharrukin]

Looking at Killing individuals what is the lowest level you will think it is right to kill someone for their crime

YES
Genocidal Leader (Hundreds, thousands, millions)
Mass-Murderer (Dozens, hundreds, thousands i.e. terrorist)
Serial Killer (Multiple; One/two at a time)
Child-Rapist Murderer
Rapist Murderer
Assassin (Specific Target - Unknown - for money)

Revenge for what? (probably a YES)
Murderer (Specific Target - Known - revenge)

Dependent on the exact circumstances.
Assault/Robber/Burglar Murder (In the act of committing a crime)
Crime of Passion (Lovers Triangle, etc.)

NO
Metally impaired Murderer
Drunk Driver / Speeding Driver killing
Accidental killing (Negligent)
Adulterer (no one dead)
Drug Courier (no one dead)