Romans

**King of Atlantis** · 08-05-2005, 04:05

The romans should be strong, but not as strong as they are in the game. The roman families usually take on greece,macedon,carthage, and gaul all at the same time, yet they manage to clobber them

Yes rome should win more times than not, but has anybody EVER seen the Ai wipe them out?

**sapi** · 08-05-2005, 08:40

no, but as stated before this is probably due to the fact that they are 4 factions and thus have 4xproduction power

**pezhetairoi** · 08-08-2005, 03:48

I would say yes to the 4x thing. If we had just the Senate trying to push out its boundaries, we would see some instant AI fun =\

**player1** · 08-08-2005, 07:36

I say romans are not strong enough.

If you leave AI control to them, they will hardly ever overpower neighbour factions. Scipii would probably be the best and take Sicilty acn Carthage, Brutii will take just a few territories in macedonia, and Julii will somethimes even not expand from starting provices.

Doesn't sound like historic expansion of roman republic.

**Conqueror** · 08-08-2005, 09:16

To my experience, if you play a faction that doesn't fight the romans early, then you'll find that by the late game they have pretty much wiped out the gauls, carthies and maccies & greeks. It's not uncommon to see at least one of the roman factions having turned hugely powerful, both economically and militarily.

**caesar44** · 08-08-2005, 10:02

If TOTAL WAR was a game with Martians and Neptunians (whatever) , than yes , all the factions should have been balanced , but , it is a game based on history , so yes , the Romans were the strongest for 650 years , and the game represent it . simple as that .

**Marquis of Roland** · 08-08-2005, 10:38

Why Romans are so good in the game....

They are 3 powerful factions allied to each other, which does a lot more for commerce than actual fighting. Even playing as Julii I never had money problems playing a Roman faction. Of course your home provinces will never be threatened, so you can support your army unimpeded.

Their starting provinces are not poor.

Roman troop's defense is way too high early in the game.

Their stamina allows them to kill effectively for the entire time of a short RTW battle (yes they should slow the game down, its like MTW on meth).

Carthage is too passive. Suggest changing the des.strat file to a more aggressive AI (dunno what it is now but sailor/napoleon would be nice I think). Their troops suck compared to Romans other than elephants, so they should get better generals.

Macedonians and Greeks attack each other instead of forming a united front against the Brutii.

right.....

**antisocialmunky** · 08-08-2005, 17:20

Originally Posted by player1

I say romans are not strong enough.

If you leave AI control to them, they will hardly ever overpower neighbour factions. Scipii would probably be the best and take Sicilty acn Carthage, Brutii will take just a few territories in macedonia, and Julii will somethimes even not expand from starting provices.

Doesn't sound like historic expansion of roman republic.

The only faction the AIs can be sucessful with are the Eggies...