Fall of Constantinople

[Advo-san]

IMO the Turks completely owned the Christians, not by some open port gate or something, but by assaulting the walls with superb muslim soldiers =)

I agree, that is the meaning of the argument I posted above. Kekroporta was a myth. But I also tried to explain the significance of that myth.

BTW, Kekroporta has nothing to do with any "port", -porta is the greek word for "door". So "Kekroport" or "Kekroporta" is a gate, not a port or a port door.

[edyzmedieval]

I agree, that is the meaning of the argument I posted above. Kekroporta was a myth. But I also tried to explain the significance of that myth.

BTW, Kekroporta has nothing to do with any "port", -porta is the greek word for "door". So "Kekroport" or "Kekroporta" is a gate, not a port or a port door.

What do you mean by "Kerkoporta" is a myth?!

Let's start a thread about it in the Monastery.

[Advo-san]

Ok ed

[Advo-san]

Thread started https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=51945

[bozkirsovalyesi]

ı am in istanbul to live.

kerkoporta gate... ...... was a myth or fictitious

29-may-1453 ... turks armies to go in city
edirnekapı (adrianopolisgate) destroyed city wall...

city wall to fall cannon fire...
real success.... have turk heavy cannons

(occidental) well bibliography : nicolo barbaro "1453 constantinopol siege daily"






note:
ottomans janisseries (devşirme)
to appear 1363 in troops of guardsmen ottoman padishah...
""half warrior"" minor class
heavy infantry. only arrow-bow-scimitar
never armour-spear. medieval game: janisseryheavy infantry = fictitious


A.D. 1363 : 1.000 men
A.D. 1453 : 3.000 men (medieval end 1453)
A.D. 1520 : 8.000 men
A.D. 1582 : 12.000 men
later janisseries muslim born-not devşirme soldiers.



real ottomans ""warrior"" military class:

major class:

timarli sipahi (timar=fief ... sipahi=cavalry)
heavy cavalry........ 166.000 + cavalry

akinci (turk commandos)
light cavalry........ 40.000 + cavalry

azap
light infantry....... 200.000 men


other minor class:

sea levents .........(sea warriros)
sea azaps .........(marines)
castle azaps ........(castle infantry)
sekban ...............(heavy infantry)
yaya ..................(early infantry)
müsellems ...........(early cavalrys)
yörüks ................(early cavalrys militia)
land levents .........(cavalrys)
delils ..................(light cavalry)
farisan ................(border castle cavalrys)
sarıca .................(light cavalry militia)
beşli ..................(castle infantry)
derbentçi .............(mountain pass castle or border castle guardian)

asess ...................(militia)


serdengeçti or dalkilic ........ (sacrificer soldiers... heavy infantry)