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  • Tradition (holy books ...)

    19 29.69%
  • Vision (mystic way)

    10 15.63%
  • Mind (philosophic way)

    17 26.56%
  • Authorities (preachers, mullahs, parents ...)

    9 14.06%
  • Observations (from nature to God)

    15 23.44%
  • Pah, I am God

    10 15.63%
  • There is no way

    14 21.88%
  • Well, the moderators ...

    9 14.06%
  • gah

    14 21.88%
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    Humanist Senior Member Franconicus's Avatar
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    Default How to get reliable informations about God

    All the topics about life, God, life after daeth, souls ... are very important to everyone, I guess. But it is really hard to get relyable information.
    What do you think is the way to get trustable information?

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    Well, I just ask Him. He's quite open about himself, so you can trust what He says.

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    Well the first 5 obviously. The rest are just stupid (and gah!)

    Don't really know where this thread is meant to be going.
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    Bravery is not to never feel the fear.
    Bravery is to be terrified as hell;
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    Luis,
    can you give me his phone number, please? Or maybe he can call me back?

    Jokes aside, I think this is really one of the essential questions in life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Khalifah
    Don't really know where this thread is meant to be going.
    It would help if you just explain it a bit.
    What about traditions. What reliable information do you get.
    Visions, what is your experience with it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis de la Ferte Ste Colombe
    Well, I just ask Him. He's quite open about himself, so you can trust what He says.

    Louis,
    Why if you talk to him this means you are praying, and if vse versa - everyone thinks you are schisofrenic ( sp? )?
    Hi, Franc, what is the God you are asking about?

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    Default Re: How to get reliable informations about God

    Quote Originally Posted by Franconicus
    All the topics about life, God, life after daeth, souls ... are very important to everyone, I guess. But it is really hard to get relyable information.
    What do you think is the way to get trustable information?
    It is not easy to get correct information (note that I am not saying true) because of enmity between religious and non-religious, between sects or denominations and across faiths. In addition to that are the many degrees of maturity/understanding of individuals in the different faiths.
    The questions you have are more or less directed at religion and should be answered by religion.
    The way I got information was going to the different denominations in question and ask. It is however important to verify the answers especially if the answers are opinions of individuals (ref: maturity and understanding). The best way is to get official pamphlets and or official books.
    The worst thing you can do is to get information about the Catholics from the Protestants and vise versa. The likelihood of getting incorrect information is quite high.
    Go to the source.
    That being said it is nearly an impossible task to get a complete overview of one of the topics you mention. Just within Christianity you could spend a lifetime just to compile definitions of God.

    [edit]: I didn't notice this was a poll...
    I have never experienced the supernatural of religions and hence must rely on what I can read and answers I get to my questions.
    The combination of book sources and learned men in the form of scholars and teachers are probably the best way to gather information.
    Last edited by Sigurd; 08-04-2005 at 13:21.
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    I am God.
    GARCIN: I "dreamt," you say. It was no dream. When I chose the hardest path, I made my choice deliberately. A man is what he wills himself to be.
    INEZ: Prove it. Prove it was no dream. It's what one does, and nothing else, that shows the stuff one's made of.
    GARCIN: I died too soon. I wasn't allowed time to - to do my deeds.
    INEZ: One always dies too soon - or too late. And yet one's whole life is complete at that moment, with a line drawn neatly under it, ready for the summing up. You are - your life, and nothing else.

    Jean Paul Sartre - No Exit 1944

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    I just open the fridge. There it is, as reliable as it can get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAG
    I am God.
    Get out of my fridge!





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    I think a clear, exhaustive, reliable, non ambiguous and non interpretable definition of god must be given to be able to respond to this question.

    Without it it seems that the fridge answer is the only correct and reliable one.

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    the best source of information on God that we have on this planet is found in the Bible

    however i do not agree with lumping the word "tradition" in with that, as this poll has done.

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    God is probably a woman

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    I am not an Islam preacher nor do I want to touch so sensitive veins but in one thread, I guess Don Corleone had briefly said that and I'd like to repeat it by explaining it a bit more : Kur'an (Qoran the way you call it) is the absolute words of God written by Qatips immediately after Hz. Muhammed was revealed the phrases of Kur'an. If you may neutrally get interested in thsi subject, you may have a look at it.

    However, if you are "memorized" to be religious of a religion - e.g. by your parents . This faith usually collapses by some time in your life. The true fatih thrives in your heart after you deeply think about the God. That is not about "What's the meaning of life?" crap since it does not even worth asking. This is about understanding the life that reveals the path to faith.

    So, holy books which are far from being changed, deep thinking and observations are key elements to know more about God, IMO.

    But I want to emphasize that there may be arguments between believers and non-believers, as it is already commited. So I request from all friends here to discuss the subject without humiliating each other's beliefs. I am a deep believer and would be pleased to know about the self-rational claims of non-believers, if any.

    One quote from a Turkish writer, I guess, about the religion :

    "Put religion away where it belongs.. Between you and the God, not elsewhere.."
    Last edited by LeftEyeNine; 08-04-2005 at 13:55.

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    Default Re: How to get reliable informations about God

    What do you mean by reliable information? Is it the official version of God you are after or do you want to know the background of the religion? In other words is it the book you are interested in or the sources behind the book.


    CBR

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    I do not discuss the attributes of God nor if there is a God or a Nirwana, or if Christians are right or Muslims.
    The question is what are the sources we can use and how reliable are they.
    If you say that tradition or holy books are a good source then I agree. However there are many different and they do not all say the same thing.

    If there is a God (whatever that is) and is somehow in connection with us then there should be the chance to get at least some information.

    I know that in Middle Age there were Christions who chose the mystic way and others who have a more intelectual approach. Even others relied on the authorities.

    Even if you do not believe that there is a kind of God, how do you get this point of view?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Templar Knight
    God is probably a woman
    I am not a woman.
    GARCIN: I "dreamt," you say. It was no dream. When I chose the hardest path, I made my choice deliberately. A man is what he wills himself to be.
    INEZ: Prove it. Prove it was no dream. It's what one does, and nothing else, that shows the stuff one's made of.
    GARCIN: I died too soon. I wasn't allowed time to - to do my deeds.
    INEZ: One always dies too soon - or too late. And yet one's whole life is complete at that moment, with a line drawn neatly under it, ready for the summing up. You are - your life, and nothing else.

    Jean Paul Sartre - No Exit 1944

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAG
    I am not a woman.
    That means you're not God.....

    Jokes aside. The traditional way of the Holy Books, plus miracles, like a Holy Icon(don't know if it;s the right word) crying......
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    easy.....


    just send me a letter pointing out your doubts and i´ll gladly answer them for you..(hey..it´s not like anyone can prove me wrong anyway )



    P.S.-Include in the letter one 100€ bill to ensure speedy reply.
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    Sorry the Correct answer is Voodoo. If you believe in anything else you are going to burn in the eternal flames of Mount Umbaba-Kwektylon-Vvratu-Mpenu and be prodded in naughty places by the Great Chicken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin
    easy.....


    just send me a letter pointing out your doubts and i´ll gladly answer them for you..(hey..it´s not like anyone can prove me wrong anyway )



    P.S.-Include in the letter one 100€ bill to ensure speedy reply.

    Would you care about giving me my chocolate ice cream back?

    Louis,

    PS: that's how you know God can be vengefull! Chocolate Ice Cream! If that's not reliable information, what is!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAG
    I am God.
    So you are responsible for all this ...

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    chicken burger and chips from an indian take away in my town - the best ever, especially with salad

    now thats God!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franconicus
    So you are responsible for all this ...
    Well you know, I have been busy.
    GARCIN: I "dreamt," you say. It was no dream. When I chose the hardest path, I made my choice deliberately. A man is what he wills himself to be.
    INEZ: Prove it. Prove it was no dream. It's what one does, and nothing else, that shows the stuff one's made of.
    GARCIN: I died too soon. I wasn't allowed time to - to do my deeds.
    INEZ: One always dies too soon - or too late. And yet one's whole life is complete at that moment, with a line drawn neatly under it, ready for the summing up. You are - your life, and nothing else.

    Jean Paul Sartre - No Exit 1944

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    I put other because I didn't know you could enter multiple answers. I would say scripture and prayer.
    "A man who doesn't spend time with his family can never be a real man."
    Don Vito Corleone: The Godfather, Part 1.

    "Then wait for them and swear to God in heaven that if they spew that bull to you or your family again you will cave there heads in with a sledgehammer"
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeftEyeNine
    I am not an Islam preacher nor do I want to touch so sensitive veins but in one thread, I guess Don Corleone had briefly said that and I'd like to repeat it by explaining it a bit more : Kur'an (Qoran the way you call it) is the absolute words of God written by Qatips immediately after Hz. Muhammed was revealed the phrases of Kur'an. If you may neutrally get interested in thsi subject, you may have a look at it.

    However, if you are "memorized" to be religious of a religion - e.g. by your parents . This faith usually collapses by some time in your life. The true fatih thrives in your heart after you deeply think about the God. That is not about "What's the meaning of life?" crap since it does not even worth asking. This is about understanding the life that reveals the path to faith.

    So, holy books which are far from being changed, deep thinking and observations are key elements to know more about God, IMO.

    But I want to emphasize that there may be arguments between believers and non-believers, as it is already commited. So I request from all friends here to discuss the subject without humiliating each other's beliefs. I am a deep believer and would be pleased to know about the self-rational claims of non-believers, if any.

    One quote from a Turkish writer, I guess, about the religion :

    "Put religion away where it belongs.. Between you and the God, not elsewhere.."

    Isn´t that just a disguise for the problem? How do you know Muhammed is a reliable source? How do you know his source was reliable?

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    Die.

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    [demonic voice] God is dead, talk to me again in 100 years when I have reached the stage of uberman and self proclaimed 'angel of death' [/demonic voice]



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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
    Die.
    damn it! you beat me to it.
    Quote Originally Posted by JAG
    Well you know, I have been busy.
    i want a refund!
    Last edited by Big_John; 08-04-2005 at 17:09.
    now i'm here, and history is vindicated.

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    This is an easy question.... the bible one of the best (if not the greatest) books ever made.
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