Some advice

[dgfred]

Need some advice from some of the better players here .

My situation is as the HRE in 1149. I have conquered Denmark, Sweden,
Norway, Pomerania, Prussia, Champaign, Isle de France, Flanders, Silesia and
Toulouse. My $ is not that good and I am not able to build but an
occaisional building here and there. I already have castles in Saxony,
Austria, Swabia, Switzerland and Burgandy so I can build some very tough
units when needed, a couple of more castles are being built in Denmark, etc...

My question is: Since I'm having some money problems would you guys hit
England (still provinces on continent) or Italy (weak units/armies) in Genoa,
Venice, etc to get some extra moolah?

My armies are in good shape with about 5 Princes as leaders and Henry the
Lion with my Emperor in Austria, no problems with winning ONE of the fights.
I also have about 6 assassins, all with at least 3 stars so nobody can
get any emissaries or princesses in my land unless I want them to. My only
problem with smacking England is with their navy, it is about even with mine,
and I hate naval battles and I hate trade loss worse.


What do you guys think? Give me a carrot to go after!

[PittBull260]

if ur army's big enough to still defend the borders, then send some into italy, leave 1 province to the pope tho

[yesdachi]

I would go after the Italians, Venice alone could net you enough $ to finance an army to defeat the English. But be ready for the excom warning either way.

[dgfred]

I would go after the Italians, Venice alone could net you enough $ to finance an army to defeat the English. But be ready for the excom warning either way.

Should I pop one or the other, get my warning, and then really smack the
other? I forgot to mention that Hungary has a decent army, will not give
an alliance and has threatened my border the entire game. I worried about
leaving them any kind of opening to exploit.

[PittBull260]

Should I pop one or the other, get my warning, and then really smack the
other? I forgot to mention that Hungary has a decent army, will not give
an alliance and has threatened my border the entire game. I worried about
leaving them any kind of opening to exploit.

like I said, if ur borders (only IF) are strong enough, attack italy, if not, try to make money by destroying useless buildings, and make farms and stuff, then attack italy :)

[dgfred]

like I said, if ur borders (only IF) are strong enough, attack italy, if not, try to make money by destroying useless buildings, and make farms and stuff, then attack italy :)

Thanks Bull and yesdachi! I'll be playing late into the night .

[yesdachi]

Should I pop one or the other, get my warning, and then really smack the
other? I forgot to mention that Hungary has a decent army, will not give
an alliance and has threatened my border the entire game. I worried about
leaving them any kind of opening to exploit.

Maybe you could take Venice in 2 turns and then smack down Hungary. In my games they always attack me at the least opportune times, almost as treacherous as the Sicilians. I don’t remember their lands being anything too spectacular so maybe I wouldn’t even keep them just razz them for the $ to go after the real target, England.

Of course, if you are going in the direction of Hungary maybe you should just take them out and Poland too. But I don’t think there is as much money or strategic value in those provinces as there is in the English ones.

[dgfred]

Maybe you could take Venice in 2 turns and then smack down Hungary. In my games they always attack me at the least opportune times, almost as treacherous as the Sicilians. I don’t remember their lands being anything too spectacular so maybe I wouldn’t even keep them just razz them for the $ to go after the real target, England.

Of course, if you are going in the direction of Hungary maybe you should just take them out and Poland too. But I don’t think there is as much money or strategic value in those provinces as there is in the English ones.

Good idea but I want to leave something for the Horde to smash! What do
you usually do about that ? Right now the Byzes are in the
lead with me second. I'm playing GA by the way.

[yesdachi]

Good idea but I want to leave something for the Horde to smash! What do
you usually do about that ? Right now the Byzes are in the
lead with me second. I'm playing GA by the way.

Usually by the time I get over there it is later and they aren’t much of a threat or I win before they arrive. But in my recent Spanish game, I mention the details in the “Pics & History of your Empire” thread it didn’t go as well as I planned. I have only played a few years since and nothing major to report but I think my troop production ability is high enough I should be ok. You’ve got about 80 years before you have to worry about it though.