Biochemical testing on the Children of the United States

**rasoforos** · 08-06-2005, 15:03

There are a lot of cases where Uncle Sam injects some of his 'lesser' subjects with biological/radioactive substances. Just google and find.... African americans were rather popular as guinea pigs...

Of course many countries actually did that and even today 'human guinea pigs' are popular. Many pharmaceuticals companies seem to be finding the 'stan' countries very attractive lately, despite the total lack of infrastructure...the reason is that its easy to use human guinea pigs ( who are getting paid for it, although its still illegal and no firm will admit it)

I am shocked that this happens even today in the US. But then I am shocked about a lot of things that happen even today in the US

**Azi Tohak** · 08-06-2005, 16:14

Where is that tin-foil hat again....?

Someone needs to do research before parading this out.

A couple of months ago, on TV I saw Pikachu thunderbolt some schmuck. I want a Pikachu!

That has just as much validity as you watching a conspiracy show.

Azi

**Redleg** · 08-06-2005, 16:50

Well lets look at the news articles relating to this story.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programme...ld/4038375.stm

http://www.democracynow.org/article....4/12/22/151230

A new BBC documentary exposes how the city of New York has been forcing HIV positive children under its supervision to be used as human guinea pigs in tests for experimental AIDS drug trials.
All of the children in the program were under the legal guidance of the city's child welfare department, the Administration for Children's Services. Most live in foster care or independent homes run on behalf of the local authorities and almost all the children are believed to be African-American or Latino.

From this article - I get the impression that the situation in New York that is related to the BBC documentry is basically an out of control local governmental department.

http://www.i-sis.org.uk/GPKADT.php

The antiretroviral drugs used at the ICC are didanozine and stavudine as well as AZT and nevirapine. It is alleged that many drugs are used in single experimental combinations given to individual children. This is borne out by a trial sponsored by the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) and National Institute of Child Health and Human Development (NICHD) called “The Safety and Effectiveness of Treating Advanced AIDS Patients between the Ages of 4 and 22 with Seven Drugs, Some at Higher than Usual Doses" [10]. When last checked on 26 May 2005, the website for this trial ( http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct/show/NCT00001108?order=1 ) contained the statement in red: “This study is no longer recruiting patients.”

This one would lead me to assume that the FDA and the United States governmental agency that is suppose to monitor such things is grossly neglected in their oversite.

**KukriKhan** · 08-06-2005, 17:43

Following the link to the actual study description
http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct/show/NCT00001108?order=1

it actually sounds pretty benign. Parental/legal guardian written consent is required, the subjects (6 of them, age 4-22) have HIV that isn't responding to regular treatment. That fact that some are in foster or group homes seems to have inflammed some media sources.

**Tribesman** · 08-06-2005, 17:56

Where is that tin-foil hat again....?
Yes Azi , such things would never happen in real life , I suppose that is why the Irish government is paying out comensation to people who were in its care and were used for testing drugs .

Parental/legal guardian written consent is required,
But Kukri , when it happened over here the State was the legal guardian .