BI: What can we learn from BI Demo?

[The Blind King of Bohemia]

The units, which are 90% bollock by the way. I might have left a few out (they were probably shit anyway) and double posted a few, but once you read the list you'll wonder why I even bothered in the first place

Francisca_Heerbann
Saxon_Hearth_Troops
Celtic_Crossbowmen
Celtic_Kerns
Lombard_Berserkers
Saxon_Hunters
Celtic_Slingers
Golden_Band
Hounds_of_Culann
Noble_Cavalry_Alamanni
Frankish_Paladins
Cavalry_Alemanni
Noble_Warriors_Frank
Chosen_Archer_Alemanni
Night_Raiders_Alemanni
Saxon_Mounted_Nobles
Noble_Clansmen_Celt
Burgundian_Lancer
Frankish_Raiders
Saxon_Sea_Raiders
Scotti_Chariots
Druids
Alemanni_Warhounds
Celtish_Wolfhounds
Alemanni_Onager
Frankish_Ballistae
Chosen_Warlord_Alemanni
Frankish_Paladin_Bodyguard
Saxon_Warlord
Spear_Warband_Alemanni
African_Peasant
Hillmen
Berber_Axemen
Desert_Archers_African
Mountain_Men
Berber_Lancers
Moorish_Raiders
Desert_Cavalry
Desert_Chieftain
Levy_Spearmen_Frank
Herdsmen_Hun
Peasant_Vandal
Steppe_Spearmen_Hun
Bosphoran_Infantry
Gothic_Warriors
Celtic_Spearmen
Sarmatian_Virgin_Archers
Steppe_Raiders
Goth_Raiders
Steppe_Heavy_Spearmen_Hun
Hunnic_Elite_Warriors
Sarmatian_Armoured_Archers
Steppe_Warriors
Hunnic_Lancers
Sarmatian_Noble_Cavalry
Alan_Noble_Cavalry
Steppe_Lancers
Gothic_Lancer
Hunnic_Heavy_Cavalry
Steppe_Nobles
Gothic_Warrior_Nobles
Tribal_Cavalry
Sarmatian_Virgin_Archers
Hunnic_Archers
Alan_Horse_Archers
Lombard_Archers
Gallowglass
Saxon_Keels
Axe_Heerbann
Romano_British_Monks
Graal_Knights
British_Legionaries
Coastal_Levies
Imperial_German_Bodyguard
Imperial_Household_Bodyguard
Sword_Heerbann
Carriage_Ballistae
Praeventores
Dromedarii
Roman_Priest
Orthodox_Priest
Equites_Sagittarii
Hippo_Toxotai
Foederati_Cavalry
Equites_Auxilia
Sarmatian_Auxilia
Chosen_Axemen_Alemanni
Scholae_Palatinae
Equites_Catafractarii
Equites_Clibinarii
Auxilia_Palatinii
Bucellarii
Plumbatarii
Foederati_Infantry
Comitatenses
Comitatenses_First_Cohort
Legio_Lanciarii
Limitanei
Western_Archer
Eastern_Archer
Clibinarii_Immortals
Sassanid_Repeating_Ballistae
Sassanid_Heavy_Onager
Elephants
Nomad_Archer_Cavalry
Camel_Raiders
Clibinarii
Armoured_Camel_Riders
Cataphracts
Sughdian_Warriors
Desert_Archers_Sassanid
Kurdish_Javelinmen
Mountain_Slinger
Hunnic_Warlords
Arian_Priests
Mounted_Arian_Priests
Gothic_Horse_Archers
Steppe_Horse_Archers
Sarmatian_Virgin_Horse_Archers
Western_Peasant_Alemanni
Western_Peasant_Frank
Western_Peasant_Saxon
Western_Peasant_Celt
Noble_Warriors_Frank
Celtic_Warlord
Herdsmen_Sarmatian
Peasant_Vandal
Peasant_Gothic
Steppe_Spearmen_Vandal
Steppe_Horde_Horse
Hun_Horde_Horse
Steppe_Swordsmen_Hun
Steppe_Swordsmen_Vandal
Runaway_Slave_Spearmen
Goth_Raiders
Steppe_Heavy_Spearmen_Vandal
Sarmatian_Noble_Cavalry
Alan_Noble_Cavalry
Steppe_Horse_Archers
Hunnic_Warlords
Sarmatian_Warlords
Steppe_Warlords
Goth_Warlords
Sassanid_Peasant
Levy_Spearmen_Sassanid
Western_Peasant
Roman_Onagers
Roman_Ballistae
Romano_British_Warlords
Generic_Rebel_General
Eastern_Rebel_Generals
Barb_Rebel_General
Amazon_Chariots
Judean_Zealots
Merc_Herdsmen
Merc_Foederati_Infantry
Merc_Veteranii
Merc_Gallowglass
Merc_Kerns
Merc_Sughdian_Warriors
Merc_Sassanian_Armoured_Archers
Merc_Graal_Knights
Merc_Vandal_Lancers
Merc_Alan_Noble_Cavalry
Merc_Camel_Raiders
Merc_Sarmatian_Auxilia
Merc_Moorish_Raiders
Merc_Foederati_Cavalry
Merc_Hippo_Toxotai
Merc_Equites_Veteranii
Merc_Elephants
Merc_Onagers
Merc_Ballistae
Barb_Horde_Peasants
Steppe_Horde_Peasants
Steppe_Horde_Spearmen
Hun_Horde_Spearmen
Hunnic_Archers
Merc_Bucellarii
Merc_Alan_Horse_Archers
Barb_Horde_Raider
Barb_Horde_Chosen_Swordsmen
Steppe_Horde_Chosen_Warriors
Hun_Horde_Chosen_Warriors
Merc_Hounds_of_Culann
Merc_Golden_Band
Barb_Horde_Spearmen
Barb_Horde_Hunter
Hun_Horde_Peasants
Camel_Raiders
Sassanid_Heavy_Onager
Roman_Heavy_Onager
Merc_Bosphoran_Infantry
Merc_Vandal_Raiders
Merc_Wolfhounds
Roman_Repeating_Ballistae
Merc_Armoured_Camel_Riders
Roman_Scorpion

Numerous but altogether a pile of steaming shit.

[The Blind King of Bohemia]

More units with info cards but they don't work in battle:

Graal Knights (What was CA smoking?!?)



Saxon Sea Raiders



Eastern Archers also have cards. Big question is - do any actually work in battle?

[Meneldil]

Well, at least the 21 factions don't have the same names as the vanilla ones. I still have hope we'll be able to add more with the Xpack.

Graal Knights (What was CA smoking?!?)

Apparently some people watched Arthur too much

[The Blind King of Bohemia]

More testing - so close!



Its crashing while loading. I used Gaiseric, which was in the Pak files so I know its real, yet the game might not recognise it until the final release, possibly unfinished text stuff. Might also be the standards though I think they are in it if the icon is.

[Encaitar]

iirc CA said that the number of factions (21) was hardcoded into the game and that they were not going to be able to easily alter that for BI. :\

[caesar44]

A basic question - the BI expansion is going to be on top v. 1.2 ?

[Sfwartir]

OT and all..

Well, one thing I've literally learned from the BI demo, is that when great warriors went berserk, they started shining bright, usually in a semi-New Year's Eve spectacle kind of fashion, and their enemies were all very impressed. Must've been very practical when fighting at night:

Hallgrim:
"Odin's Testicles! Now where did Ragnar go? It's impossible to see a single.."

# SHINE! #

Hallgrim:
"Oh, there he is."

[Spino]

iirc CA said that the number of factions (21) was hardcoded into the game and that they were not going to be able to easily alter that for BI. :\

Yes, that is a pity and given the large number of popular mods that came out for Shogun and Medieval you have to wonder why on Earth CA would hard code a faction limit in RTW!

However BI looks like it will free modders from the faction restrictions that currently exist in RTW's system where slots must always be reserved for the Senate and the two unused Roman factions regardless of whether they're actually playable or not. In BI modders should be able to use those three slots for other factions.