Abortion

[Strike For The South]

This thread was sort of inspired by the your politics thread

Abortion what do you think about it
IMO Abortion should only be legal if it was a rape or the mothers life is in danger other than that it should be illegal

[The Blind King of Bohemia]

I think a womens body is her own Business personally. Young girls from council estates that get themselves pregnant at 14 and 15 are naive and frankly stupid but they should have the choice at least.

If a women decides that she will have an abortion( i believe the father should be spoke to first before anything) she should. Those sad individuals who stand outside abortion clinics screaming abuse at the poor women going in ( who already have enough guilt to live with) should not only be ashamed but should be bulldozed over.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

OMG not again

[Productivity]

This thread needs to be aborted.

[Strike For The South]

was there another therad like this

[KukriKhan]

only about 200. But it's been a month or so, so.....

Keep it civil, folks.

[Es Arkajae]

was there another therad like this

I believe you have stumbled across what is sometimes known as a forum 'grenade'

Definition: Forum Grenade

[Sjakihata]

OMG not again

Exactly my thought when I saw the thread.

[PanzerJaeger]

Hell if im going to get into another one of these threads!

"Abortion is advocated only by persons who have themselves been born. "

-The Great Ronald Reagan.

[Radier]

If you don´t want to discuss abortion there is no need to coment that guys. You are not forced to share your opinions.

I agree fully with Strike. A rape or the mothers life is in danger are the only acceptable reasons to abortion.

If the woman has the right to decide over her body, the baby has it to, and I promise that the baby want to live. Abortion is murder, even if it is a result of incest or rapists it is murder.

[JAG]

"Abortion is advocated only by persons who have themselves been born."

Talk about speaking the blooming obvious. The quote is completely meaningless and displays no brains and light on the subject at all.

As for the thread... For the love of my arse, not again... We must have done this a bizillion-squillion times.

My opinion is, will always be and definitively correct in saying that up to 24 weeks a woman can have an abortion however, wherever and with whatever she wants. A woman should not be discouraged from having abortions but actively encouraged in having an abortion if she generally is upset with the prospect of having a child and is in a situation where the 'parent' is young / in an unstable relationship / unstable life in general. An abortion is no different than a condom and morning after pill, it serves the same purpose and prevents the same thing, the only difference is the time from the conception that the prevention takes place. One is instantaneous, another is hours and the third is weeks. People who believe abortion is wrong but the other things are fine or that abortion is only fine in cases of rape are morally bankrupt and should always be treated with the upmost contempt.

Beyond 24 weeks I believe abortion should only be allowed where there is a clear and distinct threat to the mothers life. Otherwise no abortion should be allowed, simple as that.

I believe in the sanctity of life - probably for completely different reasons than the traditional Christians believe in it, but never mind - and thus I do not want any human to die, but the fact is pre 24 weeks no human does and beyond 24 weeks I would not allow it. Luckily my country agrees with me and that is how the law stands.

Have fun.

[Divinus Arma]

This thread was sort of inspired by the your politics thread

Abortion what do you think about it
IMO Abortion should only be legal if it was a rape or the mothers life is in danger other than that it should be illegal

I agree. You should have done a poll on this.

I don't know why you are still posting. You should be in boot camp by now!

[Strike For The South]

Ha still some school left

[Divinus Arma]

Ha still some school left

Don't worry. You'll be doing push ups, swabbing the head, and painting rocks in no time.

[lars573]

I always find it amusing how men can come down on abortion so firmly. Your never going to have to deal with it, so it's not your place to say whether it should be right or wrong. It should be up to the people are going to have to deal it(IE women).

[Don Corleone]

I don't have to deal with the heroin trade either, but I feel I have a right to declare it immoral. I've made my views known many times. Nothing new to add.

[Alrowan]

I always find it amusing how men can come down on abortion so firmly. Your never going to have to deal with it, so it's not your place to say whether it should be right or wrong. It should be up to the people are going to have to deal it(IE women).

oh god... you want to make a point of who has to deal with abortion? ill tell you who has to deal with it, THE BABY WHOS LIFE HAS BEEN TERMINATED BY A SELFISH MOTHER. they are the real victims here, if ANYONE here had a choice, a choice to live or do die, regardless of your situation, EVERYONE would chose to live. A child you do not abort will forver love you, and grow into something special. who are we to deny ayone that right to LIFE.

A ten week old fetus is not a person, it feels nothing. Adoption however brings pain and misery. Not always but it leaves a mark on you your whole life.

a ten week old foetus will become a human, a person a being, regardless, and who is to say that a 10 week old doesnt have its own soul, its own essence already? A human has to grow from something, and that something is almost nothing, 2 single cells infact that when merged create the miracle of life. A ten week old foetus is as much a person as a 20 year old, they have all that life in front of them, and they WILL have it, unless their life is cut short somehow, be it and accident or MURDER (taking life with intent in this case)

like i said, would you rather live or die? ask yourself this before even chosing to abort a baby

[Slyspy]

Oh how exciting, another abortion thread. There hasn't been one of these for at least a week. I always really enjoy the discord they cause and the way they never change anybody's mind. If I was a mod I'd lock the thread now, just to save time.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

A ten week old fetus is not a person, it feels nothing. Adoption however brings pain and misery. Not always but it leaves a mark on you your whole life.

Are you sure about that. What is it a lizard? Its human and its alive. Thats good enough for me to care about it. Ask any woman who had a misscarriage at this point if that wasnt her baby.

Sure a baby is, but a fetus is not a baby

And a baby is not a fully developed human either.

And you only have no say and only monetary responsibilities if your not pair bonded with the childs mother.

Pair bonded. Is this some new form of marriage? Why should she get the kid and me the expenses?

In reproductive decisions men only have a right to a consultative role. No matter how much we fuss and fume the decision is ultimately the womans and not ours.

Thats the way it is but its doesnt make it right. What ever happened to gender discrimination?

[lars573]

Are you sure about that. What is it a lizard? Its human and its alive. Thats good enough for me to care about it. Ask any woman who had a misscarriage at this point if that wasnt her baby.


And a baby is not a fully developed human either.

It's not alive, not yet. Life to me is the ability to function on it's own, which a baby can do and a fetus can't. Life is a quirk of chemistry. When we die it takes weeks for all of our cells to cease to function. And that is all a fetus is cells.

Pair bonded. Is this some new form of marriage? Why should she get the kid and me the expenses?

Pair bonding is marriage. Always has been. It's the scientific term for the final stage of human courtship rituals. Marriage is not nessiary for child rearing. If "god" had intended us to marry we would need to do it before we could procreate.

Thats the way it is but its doesnt make it right. What ever happened to gender discrimination?

Nothing happened to it we were just told to ignore the man behind the curtain for so long that we do.

[Roark]

I find abortion pretty repellent... but I couldn't justify a blanket policy on it.

I find it equally repellent that old white men have the power to dictate the terms.

[PanzerJaeger]

Originally Posted by PanzerJager
"Abortion is advocated only by persons who have themselves been born."



Talk about speaking the blooming obvious. The quote is completely meaningless and displays no brains and light on the subject at all.

It highlights the sheer hipocrisy of the pro-abortion movement. These people would not even exist to promote abortion if the practice had been done to them.

[bmolsson]

And a baby is not a fully developed human either.

But he is an American citizen if born on US soil.....

[Gawain of Orkeny]

But he is an American citizen if born on US soil.

For the moment.

It's not alive,

Now not only isnt it human its not alive either. Did you take biology?

[Kanamori]

Adoption however brings pain and misery. Not always but it leaves a mark on you your whole life.

That's rubbish. One of my best friends was put up for adoption, rather than being aborted. He is thankful that his genetic mother stuck it through to give him away to someone that could deal with the huge responsibility then. To him, it doesn't even become like he is unwanted or worthless; his adoptive parents are his real parents, as far as he is concerned, and they obviously care for him.