Abortion

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Far from simple, and more cruel than abortion. Unmaking a baby causes less pain than adoption ever does.

How the hell would you know? Im sure this isnt so for the baby.

Your both confusing reproduction on a whole with conception. Sex is about 10% of reproduction. That's why men only have about a 10% role in baby making. It's also why I called it the fun part.

That baby is just as much mine as hers. Yet I haver no rights other than to pay for it. If you dont think it helps a woman when pregnat to have a supportive male around your clueless. Im sure any of us who have gone through putting up with them in this condition will back me up. Dont try to give me this crap she does all the work.

That's because of sexism. The legal system is still set up that women can do no wrong.

So then you agree with me.

The response the woman wants is "Shit your pregnant! we gotta get married". But there is also an equal chance of "Shit you gotta get an abortion now, I'm totally not ready for this."

Equal chance? What world are you living in where half the people would choose to abort their babies?

[bmolsson]

Sigh..... Sitting on high horses is so simple when you are on the net....

[Al Khalifah]

Actually you do have to deal with the heroin trade. Your paying for the judicial system that seeks out and procecutes the heroin trade. It affects the society in which you live, very directly. So you are quite involved with it. How ever you having an opinion on the reproductive choices of persons that aren't in your life is not valid.

Are abortions not provided on the National Health Service? Therefore I am paying for them and - by your argument - I should have a say in them.

I'd prefer not to go down this alley of, because I paid taxes for something I feel entitled to a say in it. I paid road tax this year, it doesn't mean I decide where roads are built. I pay income tax that builds prisons, it doesn't mean that if convicted I can demand a plasma screen TV in my cell.

[lars573]

How the hell would you know? Im sure this isnt so for the baby.

A ten week old fetus is not a person, it feels nothing. Adoption however brings pain and misery. Not always but it leaves a mark on you your whole life.

That baby is just as much mine as hers. Yet I haver no rights other than to pay for it. If you dont think it helps a woman when pregnat to have a supportive male around your clueless. Im sure any of us who have gone through putting up with them in this condition will back me up. Dont try to give me this crap she does all the work.

Sure a baby is, but a fetus is not a baby. And you only have no say and only monetary responsibilities if your not pair bonded with the childs mother.

So then you agree with me.

That child custody laws and practises are extremely biased towards women by default. The whole kid belongs with his mother mentality, yes. About aboption never.

Equal chance? What world are you living in where half the people would choose to abort their babies?

If the woman felt the need to spring a lasso baby on the guy, he must have been real gun shy about commitment. Even if it was an oops baby, the guy obviously reacted the wrong. In reproductive decisions men only have a right to a consultative role. No matter how much we fuss and fume the decision is ultimately the womans and not ours.

[King Henry V]

[QUOTE=lars573]A ten week old fetus is not a person, it feels nothing. Adoption however brings pain and misery. Not always but it leaves a mark on you your whole life.

So your saying that being born and adopted (in Europe there are very few babies up for adoption, and many more people unable to have children and wanting to adopt), is worse than not having any sort of life at all.

[Don Corleone]

Well, speaking as somebody who was adopted, it's much less painful than having your skull punctured and your brain sucked out.

[lars573]

So your saying that being born and adopted (in Europe there are very few babies up for adoption, and many more people unable to have children and wanting to adopt), is worse than not having any sort of life at all.

Yes.

[scooter_the_shooter]

BS I know a girl that is adopted and she is just as normal as every one else.

And I know a guy that is adopted, He is in all the advance classes the debate team etc (real smart guy)


I dont see anything wrong with them, I am pretty sure if I asked them if they wanted to be aborted they'd say no and then slap/punch me!

[Radier]

A baby is living. A baby is a human. Why do some of you want to kill them?

"The baby won´t feel anything! It doesn´t know we kill him/her!! It doesn´t even know it´s alive!!"

This seems to be the best argument for many while debating abortion.
Well, you don´t feel anything if I first knock you unconscious and then kill you with a bullet in your head, do you? Is then the killing justified because you didn´t feel it?
Braindead people doesn´t feel pain or know what happens if we execute them. Shall it be legal to kill these?

So many are against killing pedophiles and murdurers. What I don´t get is why those people think it is totaly ok to kill a baby. What happened to the humanity?