Just to make your mouth drip

[Tux]

Here is something to please the eye, while the mind imagines EB's wonders...

Alin's german renders:









Webbird's german renders:







Skins Wbbird and models by Alin.

We hope you like them, Enjoy!

[infierno]

cool really cool those skins roolz and the axes are great wohaaaaaaaaaaa

[jerby]

nice. very nice skins. is everything cool with khelvan and aymar (and the rest)?
btw, nice progress on the animations (sig).
what, exactly, are the new animations? just the 2-handed pike and 2-handed spear(cav) or more?

[Blamat]

Very good looking! I think they will be my favourite barbarian faction when I play EB... I never really gave any barbarian factions a chance really, I like my organized battle lines..

[jerby]

yeah. i'm really gonna give this faction a chance.
I liek strait battle lines (phalanxes), but wiht modern AI it's impossible to go || so it's a pitty.
And i'm currently more of a skirmisher myself. rtr+darthmod. and still 30% is killed with my thureophoroi+rout-charges for my hetairoi.
definatly gonna love forest fight against the phalanxes, ambushing, skirmishing. argh i'm getting excited!

[Tux]

nice. very nice skins. is everything cool with khelvan and aymar (and the rest)?

Yeah everyone is ok, we are just very busy with the mod recently.

btw, nice progress on the animations (sig).
what, exactly, are the new animations? just the 2-handed pike and 2-handed spear(cav) or more?

There are many new skeletons wich are done and must be done, let me name some wich are done but also wich are in progress: 2 handed swordsman, 2 you mentioned, 1 handed axeman, javelinman for elephants and chariots, overhand spearman(foot and mount) and so on.

[jerby]

mounted+overhead stabbing..sounds weird. will that be teh animation for fighting "militia" cav? (ridon harjaz etc)
btw, what is there to change about the chariots? will Kopis soldiers use the one-handed-axe? it was a slashing sword. or am i wrong?

oh wait: it has a point, and due to the weight distribution the sword will be likely to go further in. right/wrong?

[infierno]

didnt know you could animate! this will improve the game a lot! GOD BLESS THIS MOD!! final stronghold for hardcored rtw players

[the_handsome_viking]

those axemen look like they could do a fair ammount of ass kicking.

[infierno]

those axemen look like they could do a fair ammount of ass kicking.

yes the first guy is scary, a 1.60 meters roman against a 1.90 meters barbarian with an axe, it was terrifying

but still it seems a little slim, i mean, some wolf furs over their shoulders will make it much more terrifying

and other thing, in barbarian lands, i mean, north europe, its cold, why self naked warriors? only intimidation purposes or anithing beyond that?

[jerby]

well the Gaesatae (sp?) were not officially released. but it's basically a Milnaht(sp?) without the pants.
and i never really got the idea what is impressive about a naked guy fighting when it's 5 degrees outside..
but fighting without a shirt would mean more freedom of movement.

btw, are warriors (who where historically picked for their size) actually larger than regular soldiers? (game-EB)? thats terrifying!

[Tux]

mounted+overhead stabbing..sounds weird. will that be teh animation for fighting "militia" cav? (ridon harjaz etc)

No they use a normal spearman skeleton, about the mounted overhand skeleton, just imagine how you would stabb with spear like a foot soldier only down, so i don't see why it should be whyred.

btw, what is there to change about the chariots? will Kopis soldiers use the one-handed-axe? it was a slashing sword. or am i wrong?

oh wait: it has a point, and due to the weight distribution the sword will be likely to go further in. right/wrong?

Hmm i haven't thought about thatand i haven't looked at the chariot swordsman animations,i'll take a look at it, but i did plan to do a spearman skeleton for chariot, not sure if it will be used but i will leave for some months and wan't to leave the guys everything they need to make new units, i will still drop by tough.

well the Gaesatae (sp?) were not officially released. but it's basically a Milnaht(sp?) without the pants.
and i never really got the idea what is impressive about a naked guy fighting when it's 5 degrees outside..
but fighting without a shirt would mean more freedom of movement.

btw, are warriors (who where historically picked for their size) actually larger than regular soldiers? (game-EB)? thats terrifying!

Yes we made scaled skeletons for different units, this means that different units will be larger/shorter than others.

didnt know you could animate! this will improve the game a lot! GOD BLESS THIS MOD!! final stronghold for hardcored rtw players

Yeah, i've been kept secret for to much time, this has come to an end.
Gotta sleep now guys, seeya.

[the_handsome_viking]

yes the first guy is scary, a 1.60 meters roman against a 1.90 meters barbarian with an axe, it was terrifying

but still it seems a little slim, i mean, some wolf furs over their shoulders will make it much more terrifying

indeed, how much damage do you think those axes will do though? the same ammount as chosen axemen?

[the_handsome_viking]

i really like the look of those units, i just hope that those guys will be able to withstand attacks from other factions.

in germania it says their spears were very sharp, i wonder if that fact will be reflected in the hit points they can deliver with a spear.

[infierno]

i have a Q guys, is it posible to make different soldiers heigh? i mean, im not 100% sure, but i remember that romans were said to be like 1.60 tall, while some nordic barbarians reached 1.90-1.80 tall, its really a good difference and would be another good eyecandy

[Ranika]

well the Gaesatae (sp?) were not officially released. but it's basically a Milnaht(sp?) without the pants.
and i never really got the idea what is impressive about a naked guy fighting when it's 5 degrees outside..
but fighting without a shirt would mean more freedom of movement.

There is a pyschological point to fighting naked; an enemy is more prone to be afraid of a man who is so sure of his physical resilience and personal skill that he sees no danger in fighting nude. That was a very real advantage, and naked Celtic fanatics really were a source of terror to those who fought them. Further, the Gaesatae weren't just impressive in terms of bravery; they would imbibe a 'potion' (actually a type of painkiller) that would make them unable to feel pain. The Gaesatae did things like tear javelins that struck them out of their body and throw them back. The seeming fearlessness of Gaesatae, combined with their remarkable ability to withstand physical suffering and continue to fight, made them truly fear inspiring. It's hard to get an idea of it largely due to modern sensibilities of things; today, a soldier who fights naked would just be seen as crazy. During the late iron age, that was a sign of utter fearlessness, which would be both heartening for their allies, and very terrifying for their enemies.

[Mr Frost]

There is a pyschological point to fighting naked; an enemy is more prone to be afraid of a man who is so sure of his physical resilience and personal skill that he sees no danger in fighting nude. That was a very real advantage, and naked Celtic fanatics really were a source of terror to those who fought them. Further, the Gaesatae weren't just impressive in terms of bravery; they would imbibe a 'potion' (actually a type of painkiller) that would make them unable to feel pain. The Gaesatae did things like tear javelins that struck them out of their body and throw them back. The seeming fearlessness of Gaesatae, combined with their remarkable ability to withstand physical suffering and continue to fight, made them truly fear inspiring. It's hard to get an idea of it largely due to modern sensibilities of things; today, a soldier who fights naked would just be seen as crazy. During the late iron age, that was a sign of utter fearlessness, which would be both heartening for their allies, and very terrifying for their enemies.

Not only that , they were apparantly quite magnificent of physique and kept their skin untanned to create a rather singular appearance {I understand Ranika will know this ; the point is for the poster of the question that prompted his repily and others who mightn't know} .
They must have looked like heavily muscled wraiths

[Ranika]

True; the Gaesatae would have a truly horrifying appearance. Baring in mind that Celts removed their body hair, their bodies looked quite pale in battle (not only pale skinned, but not even hair to give it a somewhat darker palor). It wasn't unheard of in other places; the Silures, for example, had somewhat similar warriors. They didn't fight nude, but they would use a white powder on their body (as if they were being prepared for burial) to give them the appearance of animated dead; the idea was to make one appear as horrifyingly monsterous as possible. Gaesatae were giant in size, seemingly invincible due to a drug that was essentially PCP (a modern horse tranquilizer; ask a police officer what it's like to engage a PCP addict; they can take a blast from a shotgun and keep moving), fearless because of said drug combined with conditioning, training and experience, and great inherent physical strength. Real 'naked fanatics' were a lot more devestating, both physically and in terms of morale, than CA's cheap knock-offs would have one understand. Not to mention no one ever seems to approach them seriously; they had very good reasons to fight how they did, and they were very effective in the process. However, the fact that they're nude is what's focused on; not that they're nude and X other things that are done in tandem to make them all the more frightening.

[jerby]

that is very interesting, really. didn't know about teh drug. it's sickening and wicked..makes me realize how much CA fucked up..

[Dago]

I`ve already seen this units in the sweboz preview and i must say that germans will have one of the best looking units of all RTW mods. Great work guys.

[SaFe]

...just to let you know you've seen only the half of the new germanic units.
We have some special models & animations (thanks to Alin) and Textures (thanks webbird) for you.
In the future (open beta) you can enjoy units like the Frámêhárjōz, Athálingōz, Hundáskápiz, Gáizáhárjōz and many more...

It is so sad, that we are not allowed to show them yet

[Moros]

...just to let you know you've seen only the half of the new germanic units.
We have some special models & animations (thanks to Alin) and Textures (thanks webbird) for you.
In the future (open beta) you can enjoy units like the Frámêhárjōz, Athálingōz, Hundáskápiz, Gáizáhárjōz and many more...

It is so sad, that we are not allowed to show them yet

are you serious real Athálingōz, Hundáskápiz and Gáizáhárjōz wow those are my favourites,
...euhm...what are those? Could you give some information about them so we can at least dream about this night :)

[Dux Corvanus]

...but better start training your spelling and pronunciation skills!

[SaFe]

are you serious real Athálingōz, Hundáskápiz and Hundáskápiz wow those are my favourites,
...euhm...what are those? Could you give some information about them so we can at least dream about this night :)

Ah, but that would be lame and boring. Where would be the surprise?

BUT: If you somehow get a idea what this names mean i'll give you some info about them.

[Moros]

Ah, but that would be lame and boring. Where would be the surprise?

BUT: If you somehow get a idea what this names mean i'll give you some info about them.

owkay sure Ancient german how hard can it be...Aiks that hard.

Dux: I alread exercised the last closed betas units: Mêrjōz, Wōdánáwulfōz. you see!

what they mean? Since Dutch is related to german I'll give it a try (this is going to be ridiculous, anyway):

Frameharjoz: some cavalry unit. heavy cav?
Gáizáhárjōz: some other cav. from Gaza?
Hundáskápiz: I'll bet it doesn't have to do with the cars, something with dogs?
hund is dog in german right? kapiz euhm... damn
Athálingōz: euhm... a german unit?

just gimme the bloody info will you?

[SaFe]

owkay sure Ancient german how hard can it be...Aiks that hard.

Dux: I alread exercised the last closed betas units: Mêrjōz, Wōdánáwulfōz. you see!

what they mean? Since Dutch is related to german I'll give it a try (this is going to be ridiculous, anyway):

Frameharjoz: some cavalry unit. heavy cav?
Gáizáhárjōz: some other cav. from Gaza?
Hundáskápiz: I'll bet it doesn't have to do with the cars, something with dogs?
hund is dog in german right? kapiz euhm... damn
Athálingōz: euhm... a german unit?

just gimme the bloody info will you?

O.k. you tried really hard

Hund means dog in german, but is also has something to do with a number(not twenty, not fifty, but...) Perhaps that helps.

Gáizáz means Lance in protogermanic. Remember the attempt of the roman imperial legions to storm the hill at the battle on the Angrivarian wall? They were pushed back by some overlong lances - praelongas hastas as the romans learned to fear those weapons...

Frámê: The typical weapon of the germanics during this time...

Athálingōz: a hint - with some tknowledge in modern german - chance the t with a d and perhaps it makes some sense:-)

[Moros]

O.k. you tried really hard

Hund means dog in german, but is also has something to do with a number(not twenty, not fifty, but...) Perhaps that helps.

Gáizáz means Lance in protogermanic. Remember the attempt of the roman imperial legions to storm the hill at the battle on the Angrivarian wall? They were pushed back by some overlong lances - praelongas hastas as the romans learned to fear those weapons...

Frámê: The typical weapon of the germanics during this time...

Athálingōz: a hint - with some tknowledge in modern german - chance the t with a d and perhaps it makes some sense:-)

-Hundred?

-lance cavalry

-axe cavalry? or spear? Since when I was playing sweboz I almost only had spear units.

Adaling? wth? schearched in my German dictionarry tried ada, adaling and ada* in Danish, Swedish, German and Norse on-line interpreters. but nothing!?
in what language can I find it back?

and lingoz something with laguage?


it doesn't have to do with muslims: Eid Ul-adha? right?

[Tux]

-Hundred?

-lance cavalry

-axe cavalry? or spear? Since when I was playing sweboz I almost only had spear units.

Adaling? wth? schearched in my German dictionarry tried ada, adaling and ada* in Danish, Swedish, German and Norse on-line interpreters. but nothing!?
in what language can I find it back?

and lingoz something with laguage?


it doesn't have to do with muslims: Eid Ul-adha? right?

Hmm you're to obsessed with cavarly and the germans weren't known for that, but another hint 1 of them is a cavarly unit.

[SaFe]

-Hundred?

-lance cavalry

-axe cavalry? or spear? Since when I was playing sweboz I almost only had spear units.

Adaling? wth? schearched in my German dictionarry tried ada, adaling and ada* in Danish, Swedish, German and Norse on-line interpreters. but nothing!?
in what language can I find it back?

and lingoz something with laguage?


it doesn't have to do with muslims: Eid Ul-adha? right?

-Yes - Hundred - the best hundred warriors of a district.

-Frame is the germanic spear - a weapon good for melee and missile alike.

-Would you hold a hill with cavalry? No - but i try to convince the team to show you at least my favourite unit this far - concerning the skills of Alin and webbird this might change pretty soon:-)

-Perhaps you know the german word Adelig or Edeltum?

[Dago]

Athalingoz : something noble
Hundaskapiz : maybe some infantry in number of 100 men
Frameharjoz : cavalry using framea (and again, framea was in use in III century ad)
Gaizaharjoz : cavalry equiped with lances.

Am i right?