Countdown to Open Beta - Koinon Hellenon

[Divinus Arma]

Outstanding!

I'll remind you that EB first inspired me to join the Org. And you gents do not dissapoint.

Couple of questions:

(1) In most of the previews, have many units been left out for the player to see later? (Spartan being the prime example here).

(2) The olympics was an incredible addition! Are there several results for winning/losing? I ask because I fear generations of Olympic failure i n my ranks, with associated negtaive traits. And I assume the winner gets a huge boost of influence?

EDIT: (3) Are you guys adding music? I know I posted this in three other spots, but I've yet to get an answer.

Are you folks still working on a website?
- I have a connection with a company that does search engine optimization (I'm married to the CEO's daughter). It is normally kind of expensive, but I will see what strings I can pull. Here is the company:http://www.optimalconnections.com/SEO_Services.php

[jerby]

yeah. i'm pretty curious how the olympics will be handeld (in game), and hwo you did it

[Teleklos Archelaou]

The transliteration is from ***ANCIENT*** Greek to modern English. This is not that difficult. These are not "trivial" or "nitpicking" problems, which implies that we aren't paying full attention or don't care about the details, when the extreme opposite is the case. While we might make mistakes occasionally, there is no skipping over lightly the transliterations.

sigma-phi-epsilon-nu-delta-omicron-nu-eta-tau-alpha-iota transliterates very clearly into:
s-ph-e-n-d-o-n-e-t-a-i

Classical Greek pronounces "phi" as an aspirated "p" ("top", where the "p" actually has a very very slight "uh" right after it), not as an "f". We will never have "Sfendonetai". And classical Greek has clear differentiation between a delta and a tau, which is very close to the differentiation between a "d" and a "t" in modern English.

Sphendonetai has a "nu-delta", where Akontistai has a "nu-tau". We will be keeping those as a "nd" and an "nt" respectively therefore. Foreigners mispronounce the *modern* Greek, Idomeneas, in the situation you point out. I totally agree with you there. But the ancient Greek is not the same.

[Idomeneas]

The transliteration is from ***ANCIENT*** Greek to modern English. This is not that difficult. These are not "trivial" or "nitpicking" problems, which implies that we aren't paying full attention or don't care about the details, when the extreme opposite is the case. While we might make mistakes occasionally, there is no skipping over lightly the transliterations.

sigma-phi-epsilon-nu-delta-omicron-nu-eta-tau-alpha-iota transliterates very clearly into:
s-ph-e-n-d-o-n-e-t-a-i

Classical Greek pronounces "phi" as an aspirated "p" ("top", where the "p" actually has a very very slight "uh" right after it), not as an "f". We will never have "Sfendonetai". And classical Greek has clear differentiation between a delta and a tau, which is very close to the differentiation between a "d" and a "t" in modern English.

Sphendonetai has a "nu-delta", where Akontistai has a "nu-tau". We will be keeping those as a "nd" and an "nt" respectively therefore. Foreigners mispronounce the *modern* Greek, Idomeneas, in the situation you point out. I totally agree with you there. But the ancient Greek is not the same.

The only thing i disagree Τηλεκλε is the ''Δ'' representation with ''D''. It should be ''TH'' like the words ''this'' ''the'' or at least those come in my mind as more similar to the sound. In greek we dont have in the original indigenous words the sound ''D''. Thats why there is not an assigned letter for it. We reproduce it with ''NT''. You can argue that you are talking about ancient greek BUT the fact is that words may changed through time but not the pronounciation of συμφωνα. Υou propably gonna say ''and how you can proove that''. In case the opinion of numerous greek archaeologists and philologists doesnt count we can examine the eclesiastic language. In Greece the psalms are still in the original ancient language of the evangels. That may not be as old as we want to proove the case here but provides a freeze in time close enough to after hellenistic era so that no great alterations on language are justified. Plus in that i can provide the pontic Greek dialect. I dont know if you ever heard but their dialect is very very close to ancient greek. One more thing. The modern greek as we speak now used to be common people's language. The state's language and educated ones till late 70's was the so called καθαρευουσα. You know all the κλισεις and spirits and a very large amount of pure ancient words. It stopped being used in schools and official documents in 1982. Anyway my point is that certain words can be written differently but individual συμφωνα are still pronounced the same.
As example we can use ancient attic Θαλαττα and modern Θαλασσα

I know sadly i cannot turn in time and have a chat with Leonidas to see how he pronounces Δ but i think so do you . In any case i would be very interested to see the elements that lead you (and other people offcourse) to a safe conclusion about the pronounciation of ancient greek. If you think that we will bore everybody here with stuff they dont care we can do it on another thread

[SaFe]

Outstanding!

I'll remind you that EB first inspired me to join the Org. And you gents do not dissapoint.

Couple of questions:

(1) In most of the previews, have many units been left out for the player to see later? (Spartan being the prime example here).

(2) The olympics was an incredible addition! Are there several results for winning/losing? I ask because I fear generations of Olympic failure i n my ranks, with associated negtaive traits. And I assume the winner gets a huge boost of influence?

EDIT: (3) Are you guys adding music? I know I posted this in three other spots, but I've yet to get an answer.

Are you folks still working on a website?
- I have a connection with a company that does search engine optimization (I'm married to the CEO's daughter). It is normally kind of expensive, but I will see what strings I can pull. Here is the company:http://www.optimalconnections.com/SEO_Services.php

Can definately answer your first question with a healthy YES:-) And also the work on the website is going on.